Strictly-speaking "production" is the "primary" cluster but the point
here is about the reliability users assume around a service rather
than the reliability it has.

On 17 June 2015 at 12:09, James Douglas <jdouglas@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Do we have our definition of production posted anywhere?
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> Is it running for a really long time? Is it designed to not fall over?
>> Is it no longer being actively looked at with the look you give a
>> rickety Jenga tower because you're confident it's bug-free? Are users
>> being pointed at it without caveats? Then it's production.
>>
>> On 16 June 2015 at 21:52, Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Explain what? Everything we have in labs is for experimentation and
>> > prototyping. It should not be used for prod.
>> >
>> > 16 июня 2015 г. 18:16 пользователь "Oliver Keyes" <okeyes@wikimedia.org>
>> > написал:
>> >
>> >> Max, could you explain that?
>> >>
>> >> On 16 June 2015 at 20:28, Max Semenik <maxsem.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Maps is not going to be production-like.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Kevin Smith <ksmith@wikimedia.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In a recent meeting, Oliver expressed concerns about us having
>> >> >> services
>> >> >> running in labs which are treated sort of like they were in
>> >> >> production.
>> >> >> Examples include WDQS (already) and maps (potentially).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We agreed to have this discussion on the mailing list, so this is an
>> >> >> invitation to do so. I am not familiar enough with the various
>> >> >> technical
>> >> >> issues to explain them properly, so hopefully someone else will step
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> do so. I believe one big area of concern is analytics.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kevin Smith
>> >> >> Agile Coach
>> >> >> Wikimedia Foundation
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the
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>> >> >> reality.
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