Karthik - ser 8 to end.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
2012/1/11 Karthik Nadar karthikndr@gmail.com
Though I am already working in the article, you can donate me a session to clean references.
-- Thanks and Regards, *Karthik Nadar.*
2012/1/11 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com
ArnavChaudhary - 2 Civil rights movement in South Africa (1893–1914)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi#Civil_rights_movement_in_South_Africa_.281893.E2.80.931914.29
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Ashwin Baindur < ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arnav Chaudhary arnavchaudhary@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM Subject: Re: GA master class - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi #2 To: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com
Hi, already started checking the article regarding improvements(making list of supposed improvements which can be done) and was supposed to start checking references after 3 hours.
So didnt reply.
Please provide a tasks and i will start in 3 hours from now. Will share my list too in a day or two once i am back on my regular Pc.
Regards, Arnav Chaudhary +91-9049039013
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Ashwin Baindur < ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
Please post to the group but not to me. Yes, we shall go through every reference. Each & every source must be checked. You will be surprised at what amount of s#%t is hidden amongst seemingly innocuous references.
Okay, each of you take a bunch of citations. I'll allot arbitrarily -
- Rangilo - Refs in section - Principles, practices and beliefs
- Debanjan - Refs in section - Struggle for Indian Independence.
- Nick.me & Arnav C - no response from you guys on email list to date
so can't task you. Sorry!
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay < debastein@gmail.com> wrote:
Question: Do we necessarily go through all the references and see if the text they are cited to is accurate or not? Or do we do that for what we feel are non-reliable sources.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Ashwin Baindur < ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
Correction, For "fart of GAs" read "raft of GAs".
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Ashwin Baindur < ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
> In #1 we saw how to reconnoitre and plan for a campaign to take an > article and make it GA. A few years ago this process was easy but now > unconsciously standards have risen and a fart of GAs are being > derecognised, one of the important reasons for which is content and > referencing issues. Gandhi, despite having been a former GA, will require > serious amount of work to be restored to that status. > > Our article "Gandhi" requires a major rewrite and is not the most > suitable action to plunge editors new to the review process in. > > Rather than that, let us take up the issue of Referencing, which is > part cleanup and partly related to content and which can be tackled without > too much of our work being undone in the rewrite. > > Referencing involves a number of things. > > > 1. Each fact needing reference should either have a reference or > a {{cn}} tag placed. > 2. Each reference needs to be checked against [[WP:RS]] > (reliable sources) and if necessary deleted or replaced with better. If no > ref can be found a {{cn}} tag be placed. Ultimately taged facts where > references could not be found need to be deleted. > 3. The content on the article pertaining to the reference needs > to be checked - > 1. Material written in the article is actually in the cited > reference. > 2. The material written in the article is an NPOV > representation of the cited material in the reference. > 4. Each reference needs to be converted to a complete cite > templated reference with adequate details available in the reference. > > Some preliminary reading is recommended and definitely required for > newbies or those who have not read the page before: > > - [[WP:REFBEGIN]] > - [[WP:CITE]] > - [[WP:RS]] > > After this, we need to learn about cite templates. These are fill in > the blank forms for use. I keep them in a text file and copy them for use > and fill in. Preformatted as references, they are: > > <ref name="">{{cite book |title= |last= |first= |authorlink= > |coauthors= |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |page= |pages= |url= > |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref> > > <ref name="">{{cite web |url= |title= |author= |date= |work= > |publisher= |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref> > > <ref name="">{{cite journal |last1= |first1= |last2= |first2= |year= > |title= |journal= |publisher= |volume= |issue= |pages= |url= |doi= > |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref> > > <ref name="">{{cite news |title= |author= |url= |newspaper= |date= > |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref> > > Ideally look in Google Books for a citation especially one with > preview/full view. Once found, the url of the Google Book url can be loaded > into RefTag (url:http://reftag.appspot.com/) & lo & behold it will > create a preformatted citation for you. Its that simple. > > For example, if we wanted to act a fact on Gandhi's assassination, > to show culpability of Nehru and his fellow politicians in creating the > circumstances leading to it, the follwing would be a very good link: > > > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=30e_maQ2vYQC&pg=PA58&dq=gandhi%27... > > If I load this url into the Google Books URL box for RefTag, I get > the following url: > > > http://reftag.appspot.com/?book_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.in%2Fbooks%... > > which gives me the following Wikicode for a citation: > > <ref name="Markovits2006">{{cite book|author=Claude > Markovits|title=Un-Gandhian Gandhi|url= > http://books.google.com/books?id=30e_maQ2vYQC&pg=PA58%7Caccessdate=10Jan... 2012|date=1 January 2006|publisher=Permanent > Black|isbn=978-81-7824-155-5|pages=58–}}</ref> > > which, when used in an article, will result in the following > citation: > > *^http://reftag.appspot.com/?book_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.in%2Fbooks%3Fid%3D30e_maQ2vYQC%26pg%3DPA58%26dq%3Dgandhi%2527s%2Bassassination%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DhoIMT4bsLM6srAeUhuHKBA%26ved%3D0CFoQuwUwBw%23v%3Donepage%26q%3Dgandhi%2527s%2520assassination%26f%3Dfalse&dateformat=dmy#cite_ref-Markovits2006_0-0 > * Claude Markovits (1 January 2006). *Un-Gandhian Gandhi*http://books.google.com/books?id=30e_maQ2vYQC&pg=PA58. > Permanent Black. pp. 58–. ISBNhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number > 978-81-7824-155-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-81-7824-155-5. > Retrieved 10 January 2012. > > COMBINED TASK for us all - To check each citation carefully and > expand it/delete it/correct it as required. > > Warm regards, > > Ashwin Baindur > ------------------------------------------------------ >
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