Though I am already working in the article, you can donate me a session to
clean references.
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Thanks and Regards,
*Karthik Nadar.*
2012/1/11 Ashwin Baindur
ashwin.baindur@gmail.com
> ArnavChaudhary - 2 Civil rights movement in South Africa (1893–1914)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi#Civil_rights_movement_in_South_Africa_.281893.E2.80.931914.29
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.baindur@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Arnav Chaudhary
arnavchaudhary@gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: GA master class - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi #2
>> To: Ashwin Baindur
ashwin.baindur@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Hi, already started checking the article regarding improvements(making
>> list of supposed improvements which can be done) and was supposed to start
>> checking references after 3 hours.
>>
>> So didnt reply.
>>
>> Please provide a tasks and i will start in 3 hours from now.
>> Will share my list too in a day or two once i am back on my regular Pc.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arnav Chaudhary
>> +91-9049039013
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>> ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please post to the group but not to me. Yes, we shall go through every
>>> reference. Each & every source must be checked. You will be surprised at
>>> what amount of s#%t is hidden amongst seemingly innocuous references.
>>>
>>> Okay, each of you take a bunch of citations. I'll allot arbitrarily -
>>> * Rangilo - Refs in section - Principles, practices and beliefs
>>> * Debanjan - Refs in section - Struggle for Indian Independence.
>>> * Nick.me & Arnav C - no response from you guys on email list to date so
>>> can't task you. Sorry!
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <
>>> debastein@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Question: Do we necessarily go through all the references and see if
>>>> the text they are cited to is accurate or not? Or do we do that for what we
>>>> feel are non-reliable sources.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>>> ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correction, For "fart of GAs" read "raft of GAs".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>>>> ashwin.baindur@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In #1 we saw how to reconnoitre and plan for a campaign to take an
>>>>>> article and make it GA. A few years ago this process was easy but now
>>>>>> unconsciously standards have risen and a fart of GAs are being
>>>>>> derecognised, one of the important reasons for which is content and
>>>>>> referencing issues. Gandhi, despite having been a former GA, will require
>>>>>> serious amount of work to be restored to that status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our article "Gandhi" requires a major rewrite and is not the most
>>>>>> suitable action to plunge editors new to the review process in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rather than that, let us take up the issue of Referencing, which is
>>>>>> part cleanup and partly related to content and which can be tackled without
>>>>>> too much of our work being undone in the rewrite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Referencing involves a number of things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Each fact needing reference should either have a reference or
>>>>>> a {{cn}} tag placed.
>>>>>> 2. Each reference needs to be checked against [[WP:RS]] (reliable
>>>>>> sources) and if necessary deleted or replaced with better. If no ref can be
>>>>>> found a {{cn}} tag be placed. Ultimately taged facts where references could
>>>>>> not be found need to be deleted.
>>>>>> 3. The content on the article pertaining to the reference needs
>>>>>> to be checked -
>>>>>> 1. Material written in the article is actually in the cited
>>>>>> reference.
>>>>>> 2. The material written in the article is an NPOV
>>>>>> representation of the cited material in the reference.
>>>>>> 4. Each reference needs to be converted to a complete cite
>>>>>> templated reference with adequate details available in the reference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some preliminary reading is recommended and definitely required for
>>>>>> newbies or those who have not read the page before:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - [[WP:REFBEGIN]]
>>>>>> - [[WP:CITE]]
>>>>>> - [[WP:RS]]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After this, we need to learn about cite templates. These are fill in
>>>>>> the blank forms for use. I keep them in a text file and copy them for use
>>>>>> and fill in. Preformatted as references, they are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <ref name="">{{cite book |title= |last= |first= |authorlink=
>>>>>> |coauthors= |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |page= |pages= |url=
>>>>>> |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <ref name="">{{cite web |url= |title= |author= |date= |work=
>>>>>> |publisher= |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <ref name="">{{cite journal |last1= |first1= |last2= |first2= |year=
>>>>>> |title= |journal= |publisher= |volume= |issue= |pages= |url= |doi=
>>>>>> |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <ref name="">{{cite news |title= |author= |url= |newspaper= |date=
>>>>>> |accessdate=9 January 2012}}</ref>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally look in Google Books for a citation especially one with
>>>>>> preview/full view. Once found, the url of the Google Book url can be loaded
>>>>>> into RefTag (url:
http://reftag.appspot.com/) & lo & behold it will
>>>>>> create a preformatted citation for you. Its that simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, if we wanted to act a fact on Gandhi's assassination, to
>>>>>> show culpability of Nehru and his fellow politicians in creating the
>>>>>> circumstances leading to it, the follwing would be a very good link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=30e_maQ2vYQC&pg=PA58&dq=gandhi%27...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I load this url into the Google Books URL box for RefTag, I get
>>>>>> the following url:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://reftag.appspot.com/?book_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.in%2Fbooks%...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which gives me the following Wikicode for a citation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <ref name="Markovits2006">{{cite book|author=Claude
>>>>>> Markovits|title=Un-Gandhian Gandhi|url=
>>>>>>
http://books.google.com/books?id=30e_maQ2vYQC&pg=PA58%7Caccessdate=10Jan... 2012|date=1 January 2006|publisher=Permanent
>>>>>> Black|isbn=978-81-7824-155-5|pages=58–}}</ref>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which, when used in an article, will result in the following citation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *^
http://reftag.appspot.com/?book_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.in%2Fbooks%3Fid%3D30e_maQ2vYQC%26pg%3DPA58%26dq%3Dgandhi%2527s%2Bassassination%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DhoIMT4bsLM6srAeUhuHKBA%26ved%3D0CFoQuwUwBw%23v%3Donepage%26q%3Dgandhi%2527s%2520assassination%26f%3Dfalse&dateformat=dmy#cite_ref-Markovits2006_0-0
>>>>>> * Claude Markovits (1 January 2006). *Un-Gandhian Gandhi*
http://books.google.com/books?id=30e_maQ2vYQC&pg=PA58.
>>>>>> Permanent Black. pp. 58–. ISBN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number
>>>>>> 978-81-7824-155-5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-81-7824-155-5.
>>>>>> Retrieved 10 January 2012.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> COMBINED TASK for us all - To check each citation carefully and
>>>>>> expand it/delete it/correct it as required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Debanjan*
>>>>
>>>> - Lets make this world a better and more informative place*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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