possible to edit item source on the test system - Wikidata-tech

Katie Filbert

14 Sep 14 Sep

9:15 a.m.

The item in question was imported from wikidata to test.wikidata. https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4976634 It initially displayed as a malformed item, but once I edited the page, it became wikitext content. Importing does not work since it does not bring in all the referenced entities, etc., nor rebuild the secondary tables. But nothing in Wikibase or MediaWiki prevents it. Cheers, Katie On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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Heya folks :) Items on test.wikidata.org have a working edit button that leads to editing the source of the page. We need to fix this before the next deployment. Anyone who can look into it? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54114 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-tech mailing list Wikidata-tech(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech

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Daniel Kinzler

7:54 p.m.

Import is an unsolved issue indeed. It works about half-way. I'm afraid it's not easy to make it work right, but I think it's worth a look. On big problem are IDs. What to do if the item's ID is taken? Also, all the properties used by the item are going to have wrong IDs... -- daniel Am 14.09.2013 11:20, schrieb Katie Filbert:

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https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14274 is another "imported" item before it's been turned into wikitext Cheers, Katie On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Katie Filbert <katie.filbert(a)wikimedia.de>wrote;wrote:

The item in question was imported from wikidata to test.wikidata. https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4976634 It initially displayed as a malformed item, but once I edited the page, it became wikitext content. Importing does not work since it does not bring in all the referenced entities, etc., nor rebuild the secondary tables. But nothing in Wikibase or MediaWiki prevents it. Cheers, Katie On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

Heya folks :) Items on test.wikidata.org have a working edit button that leads to editing the source of the page. We need to fix this before the next deployment. Anyone who can look into it? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54114 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-tech mailing list Wikidata-tech(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech

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Katie Filbert

10:02 a.m.

Well, we do use import for the test wikis when we rebuild the wiki and for sample data. It involves having all the referenced properties and I think one of the rebuild scripts for the secondary data. For importing items in the special page, the exports should have the content type. If the content type is an entity, then Wikibase should disallow the import. If it's a wiki that does not have wikibase installed, then it's an "unknown" content type and not sure MediaWiki should be allowing import of unknown content via Special:Import :) Cheers, Katie On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

Import is an unsolved issue indeed. It works about half-way. I'm afraid

it's not

easy to make it work right, but I think it's worth a look.

Yeah. Thanks Katie for investigating. This is much less of a pressing issue than I initially thought.

On big problem are IDs. What to do if the item's ID is taken? Also, all

the

properties used by the item are going to have wrong IDs...

Yes. In the item in question you could also see statements with completely missing properties but existing values (presumably because the property didn't exist) and statements where the datatype of property and value didn't match (presumably those where the property ID exists but is taken by a completely different property). This is all very messy and I think we should declare this wontfix until someone comes up with an actual real-world case where it's needed. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-tech mailing list Wikidata-tech(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech

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