The following plays or other works have been mentioned as sources for Reunion scenes:
2 Gents (pirates) Comedy of Errors (knocking at the gate, Dr. Pinch) Taming (servants at Petruchio's return) Much Ado (Dogberry and the great chase, Kill Claudio (done in 2005)) LLL (play with the play) AYL (Ducdame) MND (Blame Clayton! Bottom's Dream) Cymbeline (Iachino in the trunk, funeral song) Winter's Tale (Paulina shows Leontes his infant child, dance of the 12 satyrs, final scene) Lear (Lear-Cordelia reconciliation) Pericles (final scene) "Brats of Clarence" by Paul Menzer Hamlet (advice to the players, grave diggers) Sonnet 30 (remembrance of things past) Henry V (muse of fire) 3 Henry VI (Duke of York: "o tiger's heart….) Othello (how 2 win Desdemona) Sonnets 40, 116, 130, 138, 142 or others Antony and Cleopatra -- news that Antony has married Octavia, also: II.vii. song-and-dance Measure for Measure -- Angelo wants only one thing: Isabella's virginity. Macbeth: porter's scene, weird sisters. Tempest: drunks. epilogue. 12th Night: drunks (done in 2005) HVIII: Wolsey and Catherine. Epilogue. "Everything and Nothing" -- Borges (Mike says Irby translation is better than Kerrigan!) "Little Gidding" -- Eliot Falstaff scenes (1 and 2 Henry IV, Merry Wives, "Chimes at Midnight") "Kiss Me Kate" -- "Brush Up Your Shakespeare" R&J (Nurse scenes)
I've been mulling over Susan's and Mike's emails of earlier today, the idea of selecting scenes that speak to us of lessons we have taken from Winedale and Shakespeare, digging into texts that read differently, more personally, than in earlier readings. On the list for me would be the scene from Lear (II, iv), where Regan and Goneril dismantle Lear, culminating in Lear's "O reason not the need" speech, right before he heads out into the storm. This scene resonates with the aging me, a hyperbolized (but in its essence often accurate) rendering of the dynamic when aging parents abdicate decision-making powers to their children. Not a good idea.
However, this touches neither on reunion nor reconciliation, so maybe it's not right for this occasion. Though G&R are great villains...
Cheers,
Maggie
From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Godwin Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:59 PM To: weeklong-l Subject: [Weeklong-l] Plays we've mentioned so far (my quick list)
The following plays or other works have been mentioned as sources for Reunion scenes:
2 Gents (pirates) Comedy of Errors (knocking at the gate, Dr. Pinch) Taming (servants at Petruchio's return) Much Ado (Dogberry and the great chase, Kill Claudio (done in 2005)) LLL (play with the play) AYL (Ducdame) MND (Blame Clayton! Bottom's Dream) Cymbeline (Iachino in the trunk, funeral song) Winter's Tale (Paulina shows Leontes his infant child, dance of the 12 satyrs, final scene) Lear (Lear-Cordelia reconciliation) Pericles (final scene) "Brats of Clarence" by Paul Menzer Hamlet (advice to the players, grave diggers) Sonnet 30 (remembrance of things past) Henry V (muse of fire) 3 Henry VI (Duke of York: "o tiger's heart....) Othello (how 2 win Desdemona) Sonnets 40, 116, 130, 138, 142 or others Antony and Cleopatra -- news that Antony has married Octavia, also: II.vii. song-and-dance Measure for Measure -- Angelo wants only one thing: Isabella's virginity. Macbeth: porter's scene, weird sisters. Tempest: drunks. epilogue. 12th Night: drunks (done in 2005) HVIII: Wolsey and Catherine. Epilogue. "Everything and Nothing" -- Borges (Mike says Irby translation is better than Kerrigan!) "Little Gidding" -- Eliot Falstaff scenes (1 and 2 Henry IV, Merry Wives, "Chimes at Midnight") "Kiss Me Kate" -- "Brush Up Your Shakespeare" R&J (Nurse scenes)
Dearest Maggie,
Hi. Just to say I love your Brush Up Yer Shakespeare idea, and so glad we've got a few girl voices in the brainstorming! Got a paper turned in, will call you later today, this afternoon.
Love,
Mary
________________________________ From: Maggie Megaw maggie@bizaffairs.com To: mnemonic@gmail.com; weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 12:01:01 AM Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Plays we've mentioned so far (my quick list)
I’ve been mulling over Susan’s and Mike’s emails of earlier today, the idea of selecting scenes that speak to us of lessons we have taken from Winedale and Shakespeare, digging into texts that read differently, more personally, than in earlier readings. On the list for me would be the scene from Lear (II, iv), where Regan and Goneril dismantle Lear, culminating in Lear’s “O reason not the need” speech, right before he heads out into the storm. This scene resonates with the aging me, a hyperbolized (but in its essence often accurate) rendering of the dynamic when aging parents abdicate decision-making powers to their children. Not a good idea.
However, this touches neither on reunion nor reconciliation, so maybe it’s not right for this occasion. Though G&R are great villains...
Cheers, Maggie
From:weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Godwin Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:59 PM To: weeklong-l Subject: [Weeklong-l] Plays we've mentioned so far (my quick list)
The following plays or other works have been mentioned as sources for Reunion scenes:
2 Gents (pirates) Comedy of Errors (knocking at the gate, Dr. Pinch) Taming (servants at Petruchio's return) Much Ado (Dogberry and the great chase, Kill Claudio (done in 2005)) LLL (play with the play) AYL (Ducdame) MND (Blame Clayton! Bottom's Dream) Cymbeline (Iachino in the trunk, funeral song) Winter's Tale (Paulina shows Leontes his infant child, dance of the 12 satyrs, final scene) Lear (Lear-Cordelia reconciliation) Pericles (final scene) "Brats of Clarence" by Paul Menzer Hamlet (advice to the players, grave diggers) Sonnet 30 (remembrance of things past) Henry V (muse of fire) 3 Henry VI (Duke of York: "o tiger's heart….) Othello (how 2 win Desdemona) Sonnets 40, 116, 130, 138, 142 or others Antony and Cleopatra -- news that Antony has married Octavia, also: II.vii. song-and-dance Measure for Measure -- Angelo wants only one thing: Isabella's virginity. Macbeth: porter's scene, weird sisters. Tempest: drunks. epilogue. 12th Night: drunks (done in 2005) HVIII: Wolsey and Catherine. Epilogue. "Everything and Nothing" -- Borges (Mike says Irby translation is better than Kerrigan!) "Little Gidding" -- Eliot Falstaff scenes (1 and 2 Henry IV, Merry Wives, "Chimes at Midnight") "Kiss Me Kate" -- "Brush Up Your Shakespeare" R&J (Nurse scenes)
Hey everybody,
I'm resending an overly long email that I lsent long ago because I couldn't resist trying to come up with scenes the minute we were sure we were going ahead. I'm pasting it below. No need to read it all but I've put in BOLD the key points. Sorry for the length but since our group is now much bigger I wanted to share my thoughts (and excitement) with everybody.
Maybe it is too soon, but like Alice, I'm already taking pleasure in thinking about scenes. When is it not a pleasure to think about Shakespeare?
In a weird (magical, mysterious?) coincidence, Alice, I spent a chunk of the weekend thinking about scenes, too, and many of the ones I thought of also had a reunion/recognition/recovery kind of theme. The only hesitation I have about the scenes from the romances (like the end of Winter's Tale or the Thaisa return in Pericles--both of which I cannot watch without serious sobbing) is that so much of the emotion derives from what has gone before. It's the sense of GRACE that always kills me, the sense that it might have, was really likely to have been, otherwise--a near-tragedy magically averted. In the big picture, you know? Still, I love those scenes. I'd say that the reunion of Pericles and Marina might be better than the reappearance of Thaisa, because we have a good build-up WITHIN the scene and Pericles' slow awakening to what is directly before him is dramatic in and of itself. In comedy, we could find a parallel in the end of Twelfth Night or the end of Comedy of Errors.
I always want more comedy, rather than less. One scene I love and which is all-too-appropriate for us ancianos is the conversation between Justice Shallow and Justice Silence in III.2 of Henry IV, Part I. Reminiscing about their youths and absent friends. It is so, so right for us. It's the scene I'd most like to see on the menu.
The Pageant of the Nine Worthies in Love's Labours Lost would give us a great opportunity to be very, very silly. See V.2. Hilarious costumes opportunity. Doc must be one of the Worthies.
We could consider also scenes in which the age of the characters could be turned to our advantage (though there's someone directing an R & J right now, even as I write, that's set in a nursing home--I'm not making this up--in general I'd be shy of giving young, impetuous lovers a go at this stage of my decrepitude). Beatrice and Benedick. A younger man to play Hamlet to an older Gertrude. Or Volumnia and Coriolanus. The old Countess in All's Well. The beautiful speech about the ship's boy in Henry IV, part 2 (III.1). v None of these depends on youth and beauty.
You mention Lear and Cordelia's reunion. Fabulous scene. I once saw a group of RSC actors do the Pyramus and Thisbe scene from MND and segue from that straight into 'Howl, howl, howl', transforming P and T into L and C. It knocked me out.
One of the things I love about doing scenes is the chance to juxtapose them, creating beautiful or surprising or shocking transitions from one to another.
If we go beyond Shakespeare, surely we should do the HANDBAG scene in The Importance of Being Earnest.
What else, what else, what else? I can't wait to hear from everybody.
Love to all, Gail
________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Godwin Sent: 05 May 2010 01:59 To: weeklong-l Subject: [Weeklong-l] Plays we've mentioned so far (my quick list)
The following plays or other works have been mentioned as sources for Reunion scenes:
2 Gents (pirates) Comedy of Errors (knocking at the gate, Dr. Pinch) Taming (servants at Petruchio's return) Much Ado (Dogberry and the great chase, Kill Claudio (done in 2005)) LLL (play with the play) AYL (Ducdame) MND (Blame Clayton! Bottom's Dream) Cymbeline (Iachino in the trunk, funeral song) Winter's Tale (Paulina shows Leontes his infant child, dance of the 12 satyrs, final scene) Lear (Lear-Cordelia reconciliation) Pericles (final scene) "Brats of Clarence" by Paul Menzer Hamlet (advice to the players, grave diggers) Sonnet 30 (remembrance of things past) Henry V (muse of fire) 3 Henry VI (Duke of York: "o tiger's heart....) Othello (how 2 win Desdemona) Sonnets 40, 116, 130, 138, 142 or others Antony and Cleopatra -- news that Antony has married Octavia, also: II.vii. song-and-dance Measure for Measure -- Angelo wants only one thing: Isabella's virginity. Macbeth: porter's scene, weird sisters. Tempest: drunks. epilogue. 12th Night: drunks (done in 2005) HVIII: Wolsey and Catherine. Epilogue. "Everything and Nothing" -- Borges (Mike says Irby translation is better than Kerrigan!) "Little Gidding" -- Eliot Falstaff scenes (1 and 2 Henry IV, Merry Wives, "Chimes at Midnight") "Kiss Me Kate" -- "Brush Up Your Shakespeare" R&J (Nurse scenes)
St. Mike, thanks for this list. Please add the wooing scene in Taming. Thanks!
Mary
________________________________ From: Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com To: weeklong-l weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 8:59:26 PM Subject: [Weeklong-l] Plays we've mentioned so far (my quick list)
The following plays or other works have been mentioned as sources for Reunion scenes:
2 Gents (pirates) Comedy of Errors (knocking at the gate, Dr. Pinch) Taming (servants at Petruchio's return) Much Ado (Dogberry and the great chase, Kill Claudio (done in 2005)) LLL (play with the play) AYL (Ducdame) MND (Blame Clayton! Bottom's Dream) Cymbeline (Iachino in the trunk, funeral song) Winter's Tale (Paulina shows Leontes his infant child, dance of the 12 satyrs, final scene) Lear (Lear-Cordelia reconciliation) Pericles (final scene) "Brats of Clarence" by Paul Menzer Hamlet (advice to the players, grave diggers) Sonnet 30 (remembrance of things past) Henry V (muse of fire) 3 Henry VI (Duke of York: "o tiger's heart….) Othello (how 2 win Desdemona) Sonnets 40, 116, 130, 138, 142 or others Antony and Cleopatra -- news that Antony has married Octavia, also: II.vii. song-and-dance Measure for Measure -- Angelo wants only one thing: Isabella's virginity. Macbeth: porter's scene, weird sisters. Tempest: drunks. epilogue. 12th Night: drunks (done in 2005) HVIII: Wolsey and Catherine. Epilogue. "Everything and Nothing" -- Borges (Mike says Irby translation is better than Kerrigan!) "Little Gidding" -- Eliot Falstaff scenes (1 and 2 Henry IV, Merry Wives, "Chimes at Midnight") "Kiss Me Kate" -- "Brush Up Your Shakespeare" R&J (Nurse scenes)
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Mary Collins mmcollins50@yahoo.com wrote:
St. Mike, thanks for this list. Please add the wooing scene in Taming. Thanks!
Happy to include it, Mary, with the caveat that we did that scene in 2005. If you rail about this, I'll say you sing as sweetly as the nightingale.
--m
Mike,
To supplement the list, Matt also had two excellent suggestions for Measure for Measure, including the great (and potentially funny) prison scene featuring Claudio's fear-of-death speech that echoes some of the images and ideas in Hamlet's "To Be or Not To Be" soliloquy but without all the cultural baggage and onerous stage history, i.e., it's still fresh and not overdone. Here's the excerpt from Matt's earlier email:
"To Bob's suggestion of the *Measure for Measure* Angelo-Isabella scene, I'd add the opening scene, in which the duke sets up Angelo, and the exchange in the prison between Isabella and Claudio ("of those that lawless and uncertain thought / imagine howling....")"
Bob
________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Godwin Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 9:39 AM To: Mary Collins Cc: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Plays we've mentioned so far (my quick list)
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Mary Collins <mmcollins50@yahoo.commailto:mmcollins50@yahoo.com> wrote: St. Mike, thanks for this list. Please add the wooing scene in Taming. Thanks!
Happy to include it, Mary, with the caveat that we did that scene in 2005. If you rail about this, I'll say you sing as sweetly as the nightingale.
--m
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