[Toolserver-l] Virtualization

Message: 9 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:57:16 -0400 From: "Gregory Maxwell" <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] special projects server (asterisk, etc.) To: toolserver-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <e692861c0710071457k1ebacf99x688177f7de658709(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 10/7/07, The Fearow <fearow00(a)hotmail.com> wrote: runs a total we can easily run it. No thank you, I like to avoid pain. We already have enough problems with users setting up widely used tools then losing interest leaving the tools unmaintained. I wouldn't want to scale that up to complete operating systems. We already have some 5 operating systems used in various parts of Wikimedia infrastructure adding more is just not desirable even if it's for an ancillary server. Really, I think if we do the special projects thing it should be done more with a focus on making things scalable, maintainable, and generally production grade. .. and getting there usually means simplicity, consistency, learnability, and documentation. "Lets give people a hosted VM to screw around with" is just the wrong direction, IMO.