Roy Smith <roy(a)panix.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. márc. 31., P, 17:25):
For example, as I noted on the phab ticket, I've
got my own code which
determines if an article is a biography. It uses an entirely different
method than your code does. For what I was doing, my method is the right
way. For what you're doing, your method is the right way. It's not clear
that either method is universally the right way, so putting either of those
in the core codebase may impose on everybody something which isn't the
right thing for them.
Thank you for your thoughts.
I read your code and found it useful. As you say there, some heuristics is
in the thing, so determining whether an article is a biography is not
exact, which is a problem. My approach is that there are basic indicators
for it, especially P31/Q5. That means it is very likely to be a biography.
If it returns a False, we don't say it is not a biography, but that we have
to investigate further. What I do is very similar to yours: looking for
categories and infoboxes. You found "People and person infobox
templates"category.
I found Kategória:Személyek infoboxsablonjai in huwiki. These two are
connected through Wikidata.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4574 is
something that could be really useful to write a basic code for all
Wikipedias, and it has 81 interwikis. Then everybody can add own criteria.
Once we decided by specific points of view that a certain article is a
biography, we could instantiate a subclass of Page that yould do a lot of
things primarily based on Wikidata. That's how I see,
An example I have just thought of: as living person templates on talk pages
can again be connected through Wikidata, or listed somehow, and so do
living person categories, we could have a maintenance script that lists
possible contradictions between the article, the talk page and Wikidata if
the person is living or dead. We could offer this in scripts directory for
those who cannot code themselves. I wote something, but nobody will use it
in any other Wikipedia. Now if there is nobody in a small wiki who is able
and willing to code this, they won't have the feature.