Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at < https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce%3E for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/ wiki/API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
Bináris
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References: 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords
Cheers, Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki- api-announce for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
Bináris
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation. As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang nettrom@gmail.com:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References: 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords
Cheers, Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/m ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin? -- Bináris
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
Login.py is likely to break if you are not using Oauth/BotPassword. With either of those it should be stable until the the next big breaking change.
Setting up a BotPassword is easy though and https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/BotPasswords describes how to use it with pywikibot.
/André
On 16 May 2017 18:14, "Bináris" wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation. As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang nettrom@gmail.com:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References: 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords
Cheers, Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/m ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin? -- Bináris
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
Things goes complicated. Why do there was need to implement this, deprecating and subsequently abandoning the traditional login? These new methods seems to break the possibility of working with multiple accounts simultaneously on the same PWB installation, and quickly switching from the bot to user account, depedning on task. PWB tends to be too much WMF-specific.
În Marţi, 16 Mai 2017 22:01:44, André Costa lokal.profil@gmail.com a scris:
Login.py is likely to break if you are not using Oauth/BotPassword. With either of those it should be stable until the the next big breaking change. Setting up a BotPassword is easy though and https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/BotPasswords describes how to use it with pywikibot.
/André
On 16 May 2017 18:14, "Bináris" wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation. As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang nettrom@gmail.com:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions. So yes, login might break at some point.
References:1: https://www.mediawiki.org/w iki/Manual:Bot_passwords Cheers,Morten On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/m ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api- announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password. Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
I think, login should be the most based, maintained, stable and documented part of the bot, and very simple for newcomers. Without login the whole stuff is useless.
2017-05-17 0:22 GMT+02:00 Dan dan15i@yahoo.com:
Things goes complicated. Why do there was need to implement this, deprecating and subsequently abandoning the traditional login? These new methods seems to break the possibility of working with multiple accounts simultaneously on the same PWB installation, and quickly switching from the bot to user account, depedning on task. PWB tends to be too much WMF-specific.
În Marţi, 16 Mai 2017 22:01:44, André Costa lokal.profil@gmail.com a scris:
Login.py is likely to break if you are not using Oauth/BotPassword. With either of those it should be stable until the the next big breaking change.
Setting up a BotPassword is easy though and https://mediawiki.org/ wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/BotPasswords describes how to use it with pywikibot.
/André
On 16 May 2017 18:14, "Bináris" wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation. As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang nettrom@gmail.com:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References: 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/w iki/Manual:Bot_passwords https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords
Cheers, Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/m ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api- announce https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password. Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
Bináris
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma ilman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma ilman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
Honestly has a long time user of the framework I have gotten disillusioned with the direction that PWB has gone over the last few years and the spirit of the community has had a shifted to a more toxic/hostile environment to the point that I have stopped actively supporting development/usage of it.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think, login should be the most based, maintained, stable and documented part of the bot, and very simple for newcomers. Without login the whole stuff is useless.
2017-05-17 0:22 GMT+02:00 Dan dan15i@yahoo.com:
Things goes complicated. Why do there was need to implement this, deprecating and subsequently abandoning the traditional login? These new methods seems to break the possibility of working with multiple accounts simultaneously on the same PWB installation, and quickly switching from the bot to user account, depedning on task. PWB tends to be too much WMF-specific.
În Marţi, 16 Mai 2017 22:01:44, André Costa lokal.profil@gmail.com a scris:
Login.py is likely to break if you are not using Oauth/BotPassword. With either of those it should be stable until the the next big breaking change.
Setting up a BotPassword is easy though and https://mediawiki.org/wiki /Manual:Pywikibot/BotPasswords describes how to use it with pywikibot.
/André
On 16 May 2017 18:14, "Bináris" wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation. As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang nettrom@gmail.com:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References: 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/w iki/Manual:Bot_passwords https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords
Cheers, Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/m ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api- announce https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password. Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
Bináris
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma ilman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma ilman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
On the other side, while I really would like to contribute, I tried to follow the instructions and I found a fully Linux-based workflow where Windows users are somewhere beyond the horizon. I have gerrit account, SSH key, I have a change that is waiting for commit, but I cannot explain to git where my SSH key is, because the whole process is designed for Linux. And I cannot always ask Xgt to commit my patches. So the two most conplicated task is to make the first simple edit with the bot and to upload the first contribution. I know Wikipedians, who were massive bot users, and gave it up at a point, and that is a great loss.
2017-05-17 0:46 GMT+02:00 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
Honestly has a long time user of the framework I have gotten disillusioned with the direction that PWB has gone over the last few years and the spirit of the community has had a shifted to a more toxic/hostile environment to the point that I have stopped actively supporting development/usage of it.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think, login should be the most based, maintained, stable and documented part of the bot, and very simple for newcomers. Without login the whole stuff is useless.
2017-05-17 0:22 GMT+02:00 Dan dan15i@yahoo.com:
Things goes complicated. Why do there was need to implement this, deprecating and subsequently abandoning the traditional login? These new methods seems to break the possibility of working with multiple accounts simultaneously on the same PWB installation, and quickly switching from the bot to user account, depedning on task. PWB tends to be too much WMF-specific.
În Marţi, 16 Mai 2017 22:01:44, André Costa lokal.profil@gmail.com a scris:
Login.py is likely to break if you are not using Oauth/BotPassword. With either of those it should be stable until the the next big breaking change.
Setting up a BotPassword is easy though and https://mediawiki.org/wiki /Manual:Pywikibot/BotPasswords describes how to use it with pywikibot.
/André
On 16 May 2017 18:14, "Bináris" wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation. As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang nettrom@gmail.com:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything, whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References: 1: https://www.mediawiki.org/w iki/Manual:Bot_passwords https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords
Cheers, Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API: WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/m ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api- announce https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use [[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your application. WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with "action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using main-account login, see "action=clientlogin". Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris wikiposta@gmail.com:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it. What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR: Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password. Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /API:Login#The_login_action https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#The_login_action Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password (rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin? -- Bináris
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma ilman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma ilman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/pywikibot https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
-- Bináris
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot
pywikibot mailing list pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/pywikibot