I think, login should be the most based, maintained, stable and documented
part of the bot, and very simple for newcomers. Without login the whole
stuff is useless.
2017-05-17 0:22 GMT+02:00 Dan <dan15i(a)yahoo.com>om>:
Things goes complicated. Why do there was need to
implement this,
deprecating and subsequently abandoning the traditional login? These new
methods seems to break the possibility of working with multiple accounts
simultaneously on the same PWB installation, and quickly switching from the
bot to user account, depedning on task. PWB tends to be too much
WMF-specific.
În Marţi, 16 Mai 2017 22:01:44, André Costa <lokal.profil(a)gmail.com> a
scris:
Login.py is likely to break if you are not using Oauth/BotPassword. With
either of those it should be stable until the the next big breaking change.
Setting up a BotPassword is easy though and
https://mediawiki.org/
wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/BotPasswords describes how to use it with
pywikibot.
/André
On 16 May 2017 18:14, "Bináris" <wikiposta(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think there is a lot to develop here both in software and documentation.
As I am not the fortunate one, who just follows simple instrauctions and
suceeds, I try tomake use of my experience. Currently getting to the first
real step with a bot does not seem to simple for a newcomer and may make
people to give it up early.
2017-05-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Morten Wang <nettrom(a)gmail.com>om>:
I don't remember exactly why they implemented this, but based on the
manual[1] I get the impression that they moved to using bot passwords and
OAuth to have better control over what bots can and cannot do. With the old
username/password setup, that combination gives access to everything,
whereas the other approaches allow you to only provide the bot with
specific permissions.
So yes, login might break at some point.
References:
1:
https://www.mediawiki.org/w iki/Manual:Bot_passwords
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Bot_passwords>
Cheers,
Morten
On 16 May 2017 at 06:04, Bináris <wikiposta(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This is a nice conservation. :-)
I tried to log in with one of my bots interactively via web browser, and
after login I got a screen stating my password was invalid because it was
shorter than 8 characters, and I was obliged to change it. Afterwords I
could log in. This is a case that is not handled by login.py at all. I
don't dare to change the password of my main bot account because it is
fortunately still logged in to compat, and I don't want to risk it.
Furthermore, after login I got these warnings from API:
WARNING: API warning (main): Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce
mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/m
ailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api- announce
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce>>
for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes. Use
[[Special:ApiFeatureUsage]] to see usage of deprecated features by your
application.
WARNING: API warning (login): Main-account login via "action=login" is
deprecated and may stop working without warning. To continue login with
"action=login", see [[Special:BotPasswords]]. To safely continue using
main-account login, see "action=clientlogin".
Logged in on wikipedia:hu as BinBott.
Is login.py really subject to break again at any time?
2017-05-16 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bináris <wikiposta(a)gmail.com>om>:
2017-05-16 0:31 GMT+02:00 Bináris <wikiposta(a)gmail.com>om>:
2017-05-15 23:53 GMT+02:00 Bináris <wikiposta(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi,
I downloaded core and try to use it.
What is difference between "ERROR: Login failed (Aborted)." and "ERROR:
Login failed (Failed)."?
None of them is what I want.
I think the first message is shown when I enter the correct password.
Tested with two bot accounts. No further explanation.
Now, Tgr showed me this page:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki
/API:Login#The_login_action
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#The_login_action>
Aborted (since 1.27) if the login using the main account password
(rather than a bot password) cannot proceed because user interaction is
required. The clientlogin action should be used instead.
That's nice. How to tell login.py to handle this case and use clientlogin?
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