On 11 September 2013 19:17, Dr. Trigon <dr.trigon(a)surfeu.ch> wrote: If this is the problem, what about having averything included e.g. in No. It's a mismatch between 'have everything needed for basic functionality in one package' versus 'it's OK if something has to be downloaded later'. Your packaging system is very useful for packages that are only needed for a few scripts, but I really don't understand why you so desperately want BeautifulSoup to *not* be included by default. It's needed for basic usage of bots and it's only 80KB (compared to almost 20M for the rest of the framework). Merlijn

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Simple reason: WHY? It is NOT NEEDED at all!!! You need an internet connection to get pywikibot anyway, so where is the problem? You also need an internet connection to use pywikibot, so again... But as explained it might cause problems, e.g. if somebody comes to the idea to change the code there instead of upstream in BS... (as we already encountered in the past) So we want to blow up our repo with unneeded redundant code... for what use? (ok "blow up" might be too hard for 80KB... ;) And I always hear just OPPINIONS but NO ARGUMENTS (the ones I heard were solved quite some time ago) - I did not invent this becuase of my oppinion BUT beacuse I had to solve a problem... fine - if you want to run into the same problem first and then come back crying - feel free to do so... but do not count on my assistance... I wanted to make OUR code and bot better and not clumpsy, heavy and full of waste... but do whatever you want, since I got my repo on labs now - I can also switch back to my old system and stop commiting code upstream, if I need to... I will have to decide this later... Of course there will always be a missmatch of oppinions - but ARGUMENTS are a lot more important. If you want to just ignore them and repeat the same (noteably wrong statements like "needs patch.exe" or "needs admin rights") over and over again and also ignore the effort someone is putting into it to sort the problem out... feel free to continue doing so, but I can invest my time into more useful things. Have a nice day! DrTrigon On 11.09.2013 20:11, Merlijn van Deen wrote: