tl;dr
The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
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Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
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1) Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
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2) June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
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3) Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform, calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
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----------------- Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright.
Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h...
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----------------- Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
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Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
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Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
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Quick messages:
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Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
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EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
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OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
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[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view
[2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive
[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive
[5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down
[6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss...
[7] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite...
[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive
[9] http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l...
[10] http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in...
[11] http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an...
[12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation
[13] http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat...
[14]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015
[15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/
[16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
[17] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI...
[18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode...
[19] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201...
[20] http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf
[21] http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha...
[22] http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio...
Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
1) those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what status? Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
2) Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our national MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
tl;dr
The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor-----------------
Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an
announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still
doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform,
calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright.
Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h...
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view
[2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive
[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive
[5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down
[6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss...
[7] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite...
[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive
[9] http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l...
[10] http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in...
[11] http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an...
[12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation
[13] http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat...
[14]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015
[15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/
[16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
[17] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI...
[18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode...
[19] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201...
[20] http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf
[21] http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha...
[22] http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio...
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Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz:
Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
- those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what status?
Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure.
- Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our national
MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual
dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you!
For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Thanks for everything! Dimi
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
tl;dr
The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor-----------------
Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an
announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still
doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform,
calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright.
Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h...
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view
[2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive
[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive
[5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down
[6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss...
[7] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite...
[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive
[9] http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l...
[10] http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in...
[11] http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an...
[12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation
[13] http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat...
[14] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015
[15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/
[16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
[17] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI...
[18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode...
[19] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201...
[20] http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf
[21] http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha...
[22] http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio...
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One more question. Do you recommend to build good relationship with all MEP from our country or should we pick some specific or just those in some EU parliment fractions?
Regards, Jan
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-02 12:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz:
Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
- those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what status?
Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure.
- Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our national
MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual
dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you!
For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Thanks for everything! Dimi
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
tl;dr
The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor-----------------
Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an
announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still
doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform,
calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright.
Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h...
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view
[2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive
[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive
[5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down
[6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss...
[7] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite...
[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive
[9] http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l...
[10] http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in...
[11] http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an...
[12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation
[13] http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat...
[14] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015
[15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/
[16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
[17] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI...
[18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode...
[19] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201...
[20] http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf
[21] http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha...
[22] http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio...
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Hi Jan,
You want to be friends with everyone so as to make your issues appear as no-brainers that everyone agrees on. If it is politically shaded, then it becomes a trading chip.
Regards, Stephane
Le 4 déc. 2015 à 01:18, Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz a écrit :
One more question. Do you recommend to build good relationship with all MEP from our country or should we pick some specific or just those in some EU parliment fractions?
Regards, Jan
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-02 12:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>: Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman <jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz mailto:jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz>: Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
- those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what status? Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure.
- Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our national MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you!
For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Thanks for everything! Dimi
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>: tl;dr The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform, calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright. Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h... http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.html
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view [2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down [6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss... http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commission-gives-notice-of-action [7]https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite... https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite-and-cable-directive [8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive [9]http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l... http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-liable-radical-content-online-319843 [10]http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in... http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-internet-platforms-1428074325 [11]http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an... http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-and-a-duty-of-care-preserving-the-transatlantic-legal-framework-for-a-thriving-internet/#.Vl2x6np2Pl8 [12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation [13]http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat... http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultation-on-online-platforms-has-launched/id=62172/ [14]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 [15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ [16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation [17]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI... http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BIM-PRESS%2B20150714IPR81601%2B0%2BDOC%2BXML%2BV0%2F%2FEN&language=EN [18]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode_3/minutes [19]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201... http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%282015%29536473_EN.pdf [20]http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf [21]http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha... http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-happily-ever-after-or-content-unavailable [22]http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio... http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-education-reflections-policy-debate/ _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
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I am sorry Stéphane, I dont understand what you are saying. I am just guessing what you are saying. Can you say it other way?
Regards, Jan
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2015-12-04 8:52 GMT+01:00 Stéphane Coillet-Matillon < stephane.coillet@wikimedia.ch>:
Hi Jan,
You want to be friends with everyone so as to make your issues appear as no-brainers that everyone agrees on. If it is politically shaded, then it becomes a trading chip.
Regards, Stephane
Le 4 déc. 2015 à 01:18, Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz a écrit :
One more question. Do you recommend to build good relationship with all MEP from our country or should we pick some specific or just those in some EU parliment fractions?
Regards, Jan
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-02 12:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz:
Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
- those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what
status? Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure.
- Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our
national MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual
dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you!
For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Thanks for everything! Dimi
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
tl;dr The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an
announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still
doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright
reform, calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright. Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h...
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view [2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down [6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss... [7] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite... [8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive [9] http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l... [10] http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in... [11] http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an... [12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation [13] http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat... [14] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 [15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ [16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation [17] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI... [18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode... [19] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201... [20] http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf [21] http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha... [22] http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio...
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Sure - I’ll try:
Imagine that you are an elected politician: what you want is to do something that helps your country/constituents/supporters. You make a proposal and it gets two option: accepted or not. If it is accepted, you make a political gain (=you look good and proactive and added a small part to your legacy).
So the first conclusion is that if everyone agrees on an issue (i.e. you are friends with everyone and drove your points across convincingly), then supporting that issue won’t be a problem because every party knows they will gain some political capital from it.
Now as an MEP you actually have about 200+ very different issues you need to look at, ranging from Animal care to copyright to tobacco to agriculture funding (and more). All can potentially yield political gain for you, but some are less consensual than others: in fact, some are the exact opposite of what other parties wish - your win would be their loss, and they will oppose you for that reason.
But then again, not all issues are equally important - an MEP might care very much about minimum wages and less so about pesticide treatment (or copyright). But someone in another party has the exact opposite problem: they want to push copyright reform (or more stringent pollution controls) but have no firm stance on minimum wages: that’s when the horsetrading begins («I’ll oppose you on pesticides if you don’t support my minimum wage proposal » ) and that’s when you, as a lobbyist, lose control on your own little issue.
You could say that you could only side with the majority party, but those majorities change and building a relationship takes time (plus: the European Parliament also votes sometimes on geographical dynamics rather than pure party lines). And people do remember if you come to them only when the sun is shining.
That’s very simplistic, but that is the gist of it in my experience. Hope that helps.
Le 4 déc. 2015 à 09:33, Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz a écrit :
I am sorry Stéphane, I dont understand what you are saying. I am just guessing what you are saying. Can you say it other way?
Regards, Jan
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2015-12-04 8:52 GMT+01:00 Stéphane Coillet-Matillon <stephane.coillet@wikimedia.ch mailto:stephane.coillet@wikimedia.ch>: Hi Jan,
You want to be friends with everyone so as to make your issues appear as no-brainers that everyone agrees on. If it is politically shaded, then it becomes a trading chip.
Regards, Stephane
Le 4 déc. 2015 à 01:18, Jan Lochman <jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz mailto:jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz> a écrit :
One more question. Do you recommend to build good relationship with all MEP from our country or should we pick some specific or just those in some EU parliment fractions?
Regards, Jan
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-02 12:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>: Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman <jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz mailto:jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz>: Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
- those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what status? Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure.
- Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our national MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you!
For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Thanks for everything! Dimi
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2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>: tl;dr The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform, calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright. Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h... http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.html
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view [2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down [6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss... http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commission-gives-notice-of-action [7]https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite... https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite-and-cable-directive [8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive [9]http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l... http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-liable-radical-content-online-319843 [10]http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in... http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-internet-platforms-1428074325 [11]http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an... http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-and-a-duty-of-care-preserving-the-transatlantic-legal-framework-for-a-thriving-internet/#.Vl2x6np2Pl8 [12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation [13]http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat... http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultation-on-online-platforms-has-launched/id=62172/ [14]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 [15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ [16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation [17]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI... http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BIM-PRESS%2B20150714IPR81601%2B0%2BDOC%2BXML%2BV0%2F%2FEN&language=EN [18]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode_3/minutes [19]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201... http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%282015%29536473_EN.pdf [20]http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf [21]http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha... http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-happily-ever-after-or-content-unavailable [22]http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio... http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-education-reflections-policy-debate/ _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
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Thanks Stéphane for the very lively and accurate account of what's actually happening!
@Jan do try to be on talking terms with all political groups (except maybe for the most extremist, which might harm your image with the vast majorty), but of cours withing these groups look for the ones that are interested in our issues. Not everyone will be, but it is a safe bet that at least one in every group will be open to talk about copyright.
As a very practical advice on how to approach the: JURI and IMCO are good places to start, as they are the lead committees, but then you can also expand to CULT and ITRE for instance. It might also be of use to just ask the person who claims they don't work on this who in their group is repsonsible. They might give you a name.
Cheers, Dimi
2015-12-04 10:46 GMT+01:00 Stéphane Coillet-Matillon < stephane.coillet@wikimedia.ch>:
Sure - I’ll try:
Imagine that you are an elected politician: what you want is to do something that helps your country/constituents/supporters. You make a proposal and it gets two option: accepted or not. If it is accepted, you make a political gain (=you look good and proactive and added a small part to your legacy).
So the first conclusion is that if everyone agrees on an issue (i.e. you are friends with everyone and drove your points across convincingly), then supporting that issue won’t be a problem because every party knows they will gain some political capital from it.
Now as an MEP you actually have about 200+ very different issues you need to look at, ranging from Animal care to copyright to tobacco to agriculture funding (and more). All can potentially yield political gain for you, but some are less consensual than others: in fact, some are the exact opposite of what other parties wish - your win would be their loss, and they will oppose you for that reason.
But then again, not all issues are equally important - an MEP might care very much about minimum wages and less so about pesticide treatment (or copyright). But someone in another party has the exact opposite problem: they want to push copyright reform (or more stringent pollution controls) but have no firm stance on minimum wages: that’s when the horsetrading begins («I’ll oppose you on pesticides if you don’t support my minimum wage proposal » ) and that’s when you, as a lobbyist, lose control on your own little issue.
You could say that you could only side with the majority party, but those majorities change and building a relationship takes time (plus: the European Parliament also votes sometimes on geographical dynamics rather than pure party lines). And people do remember if you come to them only when the sun is shining.
That’s very simplistic, but that is the gist of it in my experience. Hope that helps.
Le 4 déc. 2015 à 09:33, Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz a écrit :
I am sorry Stéphane, I dont understand what you are saying. I am just guessing what you are saying. Can you say it other way?
Regards, Jan
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2015-12-04 8:52 GMT+01:00 Stéphane Coillet-Matillon < stephane.coillet@wikimedia.ch>:
Hi Jan,
You want to be friends with everyone so as to make your issues appear as no-brainers that everyone agrees on. If it is politically shaded, then it becomes a trading chip.
Regards, Stephane
Le 4 déc. 2015 à 01:18, Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz a écrit :
One more question. Do you recommend to build good relationship with all MEP from our country or should we pick some specific or just those in some EU parliment fractions?
Regards, Jan
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-02 12:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz:
Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
- those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what
status? Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?
Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure.
- Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our
national MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual
dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you!
For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards, Juandev Czech Republic
Thanks for everything! Dimi
Wikimedia Česká republika
2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:
tl;dr The European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things:
- Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an
announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available.
- June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still
doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six issues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality.
- Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright
reform, calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is.
Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright. Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h...
Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that they are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive.
Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the haystack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while.
Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible.
Quick messages:
Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area.
EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).
OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]
[1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view [2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down [6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss... [7] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite... [8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive [9] http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l... [10] http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in... [11] http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an... [12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation [13] http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat... [14] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 [15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ [16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation [17] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI... [18] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_-_Episode... [19] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2015/536473/IPOL_IDA%28201... [20] http://www.eppgroup.eu/system/files_force/publications/2015/11/EPPPPC.pdf [21] http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/events/sd-conference-digital-data-eu-ha... [22] http://www.communia-association.org/2015/11/27/securing-user-rights-educatio...
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I recall calling a mep this June and getting a response "Umm, I don't know, I do agricultural donations". Having good relation is a staple, but focusing on those (like JURI members for example) that do decisions must be important for us. Aktron WM CZ ______________________________________________________________
Od: "Stéphane Coillet-Matillon" stephane.coillet@wikimedia.ch Komu: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 04.12.2015 08:54 Předmět: Re: [Publicpolicy] EU Policy Monitoring Report November
Hi Jan, You want to be friends with everyone so as to make your issues appear as no-brainers that everyone agrees on. If it is politically shaded, then it becomes a trading chip.Regards,Stephane Le 4 déc. 2015 à 01:18, Jan Lochman <jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz> a écrit : One more question. Do you recommend to build good relationship with all MEP from our country or should we pick some specific or just those in some EU parliment fractions?
Regards,Jan Wikimedia Česká republika 2015-12-02 12:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>: Hi Jan,
Don't worry about asking questions. That's what we are here for.
2015-12-02 0:41 GMT+01:00 Jan Lochman <jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz jan.lochman@wikimedia.cz>: Hi,
thank you for the report. I have two questions and I am sorry for my ignorance.
1) those two packages regarding Copyright harmonisation have what status? Are they legislatory proposals? What will happened with them, when the Commission will release them?Yes, they will most likely be proposals to reform the current Copyright in the Information Society Directive from 2001 that contains a list of limitations and exceptions EU Member states must or can have. Once published by the Commission the dossier will be handed over to the European Parliament, where it will be given to the Legal Affairs Committee. Expecting the rapporteurs to be mostly the ones from the "Reda Report" although no decision has been made so far. The dossier will also enter \ the Council, which can also propose amendments and has to accept the final version. I am expecting the "competitiveness configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/configurations/compet/" or the "single market configuration http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/topics/single-market/" to deal with copyright, although at this point I cannot be sure. 2) Can we help to our Brussel's collegues by crowdlobbing to our national MEP presented in European Parliment? If so, we can potentionaly spread this practice to other countries.
Yes, although at this stage it might be wiser to wait for the actual dossier before starting to ask for precise things. The MEPs already go to know us around Freedom of Panorama and know that this is a priority for us. I would suggest to invest in relationship building. WMCZ inviting Pavel Svoboda to its annual conference and WMNL doing the same with Marietje Schaake are good examples of how its done professionally. Good job. If you have had any contacts with other MEPs a "season's greetings" message or an invitation to some relevant event in Prague might be a good idea. Make sure they don't forget about you! For MEPs that you weren't in touch with it might be good to think about the best way to approach them. I am happy to work it out with you!
Regards,JuandevCzech Republic
Thanks for everything!Dimi Wikimedia Česká republika 2015-12-01 17:18 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com>:tl;drThe European Commission wants a fully harmonised copyright. One day. For now, they are planning two reform packages - in December and June 2016. Simultaneously there is more and more pressure on regulating a new enforcement and liability regime online.
----------------- This and past reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor ----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor----------------- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Monitor-----------------Copyright Reform Leak: The European Commission “leaked” a draft Communication [1] that will announce two copyright reform packages. It makes us expect three things: -----------------1) Small reform package in December: Before year’s end we’ll hear an announcement that the Marrakech Treaty [2] should be transposed as a compulsory & harmonised copyright exception for people with print disabilities. We’re expecting the pomme de discorde to be a “commercial availability” restriction proposed by publishers. This would mean that in order to use a work under this new exception one would first have to prove that the work is not available. -----------------2) June 2016 a larger reform will be proposed. The Commission still doesn’t know what will be in it (we’re hearing that the political cabinets have not reached an agreement yet, while the services are ready with draft texts). Apparently six is sues have survived so far: “out-of-commerce”, “remote consultation”, “preservation”, “teaching illustrations”, “panorama” and “text and data mining”. The question is what the corresponding exceptions and limitation might look like. There are two ways it can go - fully harmonised exceptions or minimum standards. In the first case, having a restrictive exception (e.g. for non-commercial uses only) would be the main risk. In the second case, an unambitious minimum might mean little change in reality. -----------------3) Enforcement: Little surprisingly when dealing with copyright reform, calls for stricter and stronger online enforcement of IP rights is never far off. Multiple independent sources within the Commission have confirmed that they plan to propose an enforcement reform along with the copyright reform package. Again, there are two possibilities at hand: the e-Commerce Directive [3] and IPRED [4]. The e-Commerce Directive currently grants ISPs “liability breaks” that allow them to safely handle large amounts of traffic and content without taking up huge legal risks. IPRED deals with enforcing IP rights. If a overly strict liability for ISPs and online platforms is introduced, this might pose serious problems for anyone hosting and harbouring large amounts of user-generated content. Our analysis is that an IPRED reform as well as notice & action prodecures [5][6] are likely. Chances are that the e-Commerce Directive will remain as is. ---------------------------------- Satellite and Cable Directive: In an interesting last-minute manoeuvre the Commission is now openly hinting (through a leak and a now closed consultation [7]) at the possibility make force regulate cross-border access to content that if the industry doesn’t manage. They are looking into doing so by extending the SatCab Directive [8] to the online environment. It came into force in 1995 and made it legally possible for a TV channel to broadcast its signal across the Union without having to clear the rights for each country, as long as it does not actively market its product to other national markets. Applying the same principle to the internet might be legally challenging, but it is a powerful threat to collecting societies and rightsholders who fight hard to keep the territoriality of copyright. Further reading: http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.h... http://ipkitten.blogspot.be/2015/08/does-eu-want-to-get-rid-of-geoblocking.html---------------------------------- Platforms Liability Debate: As there is an open attempt to make online platforms more liable [9][10][11] for content they host and publish and there is an ongoing consultation on platforms [12][13], the debate is picking up pace in Brussels. There was a discussion in the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of the EP (IMCO) on the 16th. Vicky Ford (ECR) and Kaja Kallas (ALDE) read statements that more or less agreed on the importance of platforms and the need to make sure they can continue to function while also pointing to the e-Commerce Directive. It being the legislation that grants “safe harbour” status to ISPs, this is the line most online platforms are happy to hear. Gerard de Graaf, Director of the Digital Economy Unit in DG Connect reaffirmed that the Commission is trying to come up with a single definition for digital platforms while admitting that they are struggling to square the circle between common traits and differences. He emphasised that th ey are analysing the current role of platforms focusing on issues like hate speech, application of copyright rules and notice and action procedures. A representative of the German Permanent Representation to the EU stated that his government feels close to the principles of the e-Commerce Directive. ----------------------------------Paris Attacks, Privacy & Data Protection: There have been both European Parliament debates [14] and a Justice and Home Affairs Council meeting [15] on the question how to proceed after the latest terrorist attacks in France. Strong calls to rapidly conclude the General Data Protection Directive [16] before the end of the year, to approve the also stalled Passenger Name Record rules [17] and to exchange more security-related information between Member States were made. On the other hand, warning were shared that enough information is being gathered already and that the question is more of acting upon it rather than throwing more hay to the hay stack. The debate is gravitating around privacy vs. more data collectionand is likely to go on for a while. ----------------------------------Big Fat Brussels Meeting - Episode 3: The third annual EU Policy working group meeting took place in November. Two outputs are that the (lack of) interoperability (of systems and file formats) was identified as a barrier to access to knowledge and that safeguarding the public domain by not allowing new copyright on faithful digitisations is both a priority and seems politically feasible. ----------------- -----------------Quick messages:-----------------Empowering Women Online: The European Parliament Committee on Women’s Rights and Gender Equality (FEMM) has requested an in-depth analysis on opportunities, risks and challenges for women online, which now has been released. [19] It lists and briefly describes the existing international and EU-level initiatives in this area. -----------------EPP Group on Copyright: The European Parliament’s largest group has released their position on copyright reform. [20] Their baseline is that no reform is needed and licenses can solve everything. That same month the second largest group S&D admitted that they were split on the subject (as stated by their MEPs during an EP event [21]).-----------------OER and Copyright Reform for Education: Communia and Polish MEP Michal Boni hosted a parliamentary breakfast on OER and copyright exceptions trying to weave the “user rights” angle into the debate. [21]---------------------------------- [1]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6d07lh0nNGNaXFzUFBPaE0tY0E/view[2]http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/ http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/marrakesh/[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Directive[5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notice_and_take_down[6][Old text] http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commiss... http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/ipred/723-e-commerce-directive-eu-commission-gives-notice-of-action[7]https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite... https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/news/consultation-review-eu-satellite-and-cable-directive [8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_and_Cable_Directive[9]http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-l... http://www.euractiv.com/sections/digital/meps-want-make-internet-companies-liable-radical-content-online-319843[10]http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-in... http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-considers-major-investigation-into-role-of-internet-platforms-1428074325[11]http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-an... http://www.project-disco.org/competition/070915-the-digital-single-market-and-a-duty-of-care-preserving-the-transatlantic-legal-framework-for-a-thriving-internet/#.Vl2x6np2Pl8[12]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultatio n https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Platforms_Consultation[13]http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultat... http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/10/04/digital-single-market-eu-wide-consultation-on-online-platforms-has-launched/id=62172/[14]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=25-11-2015[15]http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/ http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/jha/2015/11/20/[16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation[17]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI... <http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FTEXT%2BI... 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