Hi all,
The parliament and the Council have just reached a final deal on copyright.
We are going to get hold of the text as soon as possible, share it with you and then analyse the final compromises.
Based on this we will prepare our final position, arguments and action plan.
We plan on having calls and meetings with many people on this list in the coming days/weeks. Creative & fresh ideas are welcome!
Final vote is expected end of March or in April .
Cheers, Dimi
Thanks, Dimi!
While we wait for the final version of the text to become available, I wanted to let everyone on this list know about the blog post that Dimi and Allison wrote about the reform https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/02/07/problems-remain-with-the-eus-copyright-reform/ last week. The blog post has also been translated to French https://www.wikimedia.fr/2019/02/11/la-reforme-europeenne-du-droit-dauteur-demeure-problematique/ by WMFR.
I'm very curious to see the final text. We'll share an analysis once it becomes available.
Best, Jan
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:31 AM Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
The parliament and the Council have just reached a final deal on copyright.
We are going to get hold of the text as soon as possible, share it with you and then analyse the final compromises.
Based on this we will prepare our final position, arguments and action plan.
We plan on having calls and meetings with many people on this list in the coming days/weeks. Creative & fresh ideas are welcome!
Final vote is expected end of March or in April .
Cheers, Dimi _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Reda’s summary while waiting for the text: ttps://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/ ttps://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/ Looks bad. Anna
Anna Mazgal EU Policy Advisor Wikimedia anna@wikimedia.be @a2na mobile: +32 487 222 945 51 Rue du Trône BE-1050 Brussels
Wiadomość napisana przez Jan Gerlach jgerlach@wikimedia.org w dniu 13.02.2019, o godz. 21:01:
Thanks, Dimi!
While we wait for the final version of the text to become available, I wanted to let everyone on this list know about the blog post that Dimi and Allison wrote about the reform https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/02/07/problems-remain-with-the-eus-copyright-reform/ last week. The blog post has also been translated to French https://www.wikimedia.fr/2019/02/11/la-reforme-europeenne-du-droit-dauteur-demeure-problematique/ by WMFR.
I'm very curious to see the final text. We'll share an analysis once it becomes available.
Best, Jan
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:31 AM Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,
The parliament and the Council have just reached a final deal on copyright.
We are going to get hold of the text as soon as possible, share it with you and then analyse the final compromises.
Based on this we will prepare our final position, arguments and action plan.
We plan on having calls and meetings with many people on this list in the coming days/weeks. Creative & fresh ideas are welcome!
Final vote is expected end of March or in April .
Cheers, Dimi _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
I hope she summarized article 11 wrong, otherwise it is *really* bad : "No exceptions are made even for services run by individuals, small companies or non-profits, which probably includes any monetised blogs or websites."
Jan Ainali http://ainali.com
Den ons 13 feb. 2019 kl 21:13 skrev Anna Mazgal anna@wikimedia.be:
Reda’s summary while waiting for the text: ttps://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/ Looks bad. Anna
Anna Mazgal EU Policy Advisor Wikimedia anna@wikimedia.be @a2na mobile: +32 487 222 945 51 Rue du Trône BE-1050 Brussels
Wiadomość napisana przez Jan Gerlach jgerlach@wikimedia.org w dniu 13.02.2019, o godz. 21:01:
Thanks, Dimi!
While we wait for the final version of the text to become available, I wanted to let everyone on this list know about the blog post that Dimi and Allison wrote about the reform https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/02/07/problems-remain-with-the-eus-copyright-reform/ last week. The blog post has also been translated to French https://www.wikimedia.fr/2019/02/11/la-reforme-europeenne-du-droit-dauteur-demeure-problematique/ by WMFR.
I'm very curious to see the final text. We'll share an analysis once it becomes available.
Best, Jan
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:31 AM Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
The parliament and the Council have just reached a final deal on copyright.
We are going to get hold of the text as soon as possible, share it with you and then analyse the final compromises.
Based on this we will prepare our final position, arguments and action plan.
We plan on having calls and meetings with many people on this list in the coming days/weeks. Creative & fresh ideas are welcome!
Final vote is expected end of March or in April .
Cheers, Dimi _______________________________________________ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
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Reda posted the following unofficial consolidations last night:
Article 11: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_11_unofficial.pdf
Article 13: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_13_unofficial.pdf
In respect of Article 11, it does provide that:
"3. Articles 5 to 8 of Directive 2001/29/EC and Directives 2012/28/EU and (EU) 2017/1564 shall apply mutatis mutandis in respect of the rights referred to in paragraph 1."
-- that includes the Art 5 exception for purposes such as criticism or review, which I would have thought on most readings of the Berne Convention would comfortably include citation. The purpose of the Art 11 is to give news publishers the same rights as authors, not more rights, so it shouldn't affect our (or anybody else's) ability to cite news articles to any greater extent than existing copyright law affects our ability to cite chapters of books.
There's also a provision that "1. ... These rights shall not apply to private or non-commercial uses of press publications carried out by individual users."
So yes, this would affect commercial services run by individual users. It's unlikely anyone would take action against individual blogposts; but if someone was systematically summarising newspaper content on a monetised blog or website, then conceivably that might catch somebody's eye.
One question is whether there is any interaction between Art 11 and Art 13 -- conceivably the blogging platform would need licences under Art 13.
I think Art 13 probably does apply to the likes of Scribd or academia.edu; but possibly not to a general blogging platform which is not "organising and promoting" "large amounts of protected subject matter" as "one of its main purposes"
-- James
On 13/02/2019 20:34, Jan Ainali wrote:
I hope she summarized article 11 wrong, otherwise it is *really* bad : "No exceptions are made even for services run by individuals, small companies or non-profits, which probably includes any monetised blogs or websites."
Jan Ainali http://ainali.com
Den ons 13 feb. 2019 kl 21:13 skrev Anna Mazgal anna@wikimedia.be:
Reda’s summary while waiting for the text: ttps://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/ Looks bad. Anna
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