Hi all
So far, Wikimedia UK's experiences of trying to work with the BBC have been...mixed. I'm sure it would be worth going back to them at some point but it makes sense to try and align our arguments and draw on examples.
On the other hand, our programme manager in Wales has had much greater success. At his request, the Welsh Government has changed their YouTube account licences on over 1,500 videos, of which over 150 have now been uploaded to Commons. The Welsh Parliament (Senedd) is now considering making this change on their YouTube account.
Wikimedia UK also has a partnership with the Welsh language free-to-air television channel S4C. They have been placing their press releases on the Welsh Wikipedia on CC-BY-SA for over a year now, so that the text can be copied and pasted to Wikipedia articles. There are additional aspects of this partnership currently in the works (but not yet agreed) that could lead to further openly-licensed content on Commons.
I have contacts within Creative Commons and Open Knowledge Foundation, but I suspect many people do.
Best wishes Lucy
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Hm... In all honesty - I am surprised that these 3 organizations still do not have explicit and continuous relations and shared point of contact. Maybe it is an issue of professionalization of work (not fitting anyone's job description) or something else, but I think it should be worked on now (and maybe over this issue). My contacts are now just a few old friends (bottom up) for now so I advise also for you just approaching German representatives?
Best Z. Blace
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:53 AM Bernd Fiedler <bernd.fiedler@wikimedia.de
wrote:
reached out to julia@creativecommons.org already, but she'll be
leaving
CC *looks at watch* *looks at sky* *shakes watch* ... in about two days.
So
I'll just be putting it out there. Very sensible Idea! Any suggestions
and
people / lists to talk to are welcome!
Cheers Bernd
Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Željko Blaće zblace@mi2.hr:
Thank you for starting this discussion. This NL paper is great as well as examples above and I would use it once in position to advocate in Croatia.
Maybe this particular incentive is something to coordinate with both CreativeCommons and Open Knowledge Foundation? Are representatives or members of those organizations in the list?
Best Z. Blace
On 3/14/21, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland rientjes@wikimedia.nl wrote:
Hallo Bernd,
Our partner the Institute for Sound and Vision (Instituut voor Beeld
en
Geluid) wrote this paper on their experiences with sharing content
from
public broadcasting.
https://publications.beeldengeluid.nl/pub/600
Best,
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
Op vr 12 mrt. 2021 17:32 schreef Bernd Fiedler bernd.fiedler@wikimedia.de:
Hello to all of you!
*tl;dr: I'm searching for suggestions / partners in approaching
public
broadcasters. They could provide free content. Let's tell them all
about
it!*
As you know, the international language communities in the Wikimedia Projects have adapted and built upon the content provided by the ZDF https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_by_Terra_X
(biggest
Public Service Broadcaster in Germany). There are dubbed versions available in English, Dutch, Welsh and Esperanto. There are subtitles available
in
numerous other languages.
Read more (3 min read) in this Wikimedia Foundations Blogpost
https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com/broadcast-by-the-public-for-the-public-a6...
or find more detailed "lessons learned" here (30 minutes talk + Q&A
@rc3
) https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-2020-140-public-service-public-value
The international public broadcasters can benefit from the
experiences
we've made here. They should now follow the leadership of various cultural institutions like the Dutch Rijksmuseum <
https://pro.europeana.eu/files/Europeana_Professional/Publications/Democrati...
who make their content more visible and beneficial to artists and educators worldwide and licence it freely. In a time of crisis, we can learn together.
So... I know of some Institutions who already tried out stuff with Creativecommons. But I don't want to approach international
broadcasters
w/o consulting with you first. Maybe there's already some cooperation
on
other projects going on that I should know about or you know exactly
the
people to talk to.
If not, I'll just be sending mails and calls all over the place and
hope
to wake up the right people. But everything is more fun if we do it together ;)
Sincerely yours,
Bernd
Bernd Fiedler Projektmanager Politik Project Manager Public Policy
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:29 PM Lucy Crompton-Reid < lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Hi all
So far, Wikimedia UK's experiences of trying to work with the BBC have been...mixed. I'm sure it would be worth going back to them at some point but it makes sense to try and align our arguments and draw on examples.
On the other hand, our programme manager in Wales has had much greater success. At his request, the Welsh Government has changed their YouTube account licences on over 1,500 videos, of which over 150 have now been uploaded to Commons. The Welsh Parliament (Senedd) is now considering making this change on their YouTube account.
Wikimedia UK also has a partnership with the Welsh language free-to-air television channel S4C. They have been placing their press releases on the Welsh Wikipedia on CC-BY-SA for over a year now, so that the text can be copied and pasted to Wikipedia articles. There are additional aspects of this partnership currently in the works (but not yet agreed) that could lead to further openly-licensed content on Commons.
I have contacts within Creative Commons and Open Knowledge Foundation, but I suspect many people do.
So maybe it would be good to think: Where to coordinate best?
A page on Meta could compile and record progress for Wikimedians but what about the rest of the 'big open'?
Best Z. Blace
Best wishes
Lucy
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:02:35 +0100 From: Željko Blaće zblace@mi2.hr To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Publicpolicy] Public Service Broadcasters and Open Content / Leads Message-ID: <CAMmu-u_N=75kYGms+hpWUugpqKj---ftDYuVEeFsMdPMDu95= Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hm... In all honesty - I am surprised that these 3 organizations still do not have explicit and continuous relations and shared point of contact. Maybe it is an issue of professionalization of work (not fitting anyone's job description) or something else, but I think it should be worked on now (and maybe over this issue). My contacts are now just a few old friends (bottom up) for now so I advise also for you just approaching German representatives?
Best Z. Blace
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:53 AM Bernd Fiedler < bernd.fiedler@wikimedia.de> wrote:
reached out to julia@creativecommons.org already, but she'll be
leaving
CC *looks at watch* *looks at sky* *shakes watch* ... in about two
days. So
I'll just be putting it out there. Very sensible Idea! Any suggestions
and
people / lists to talk to are welcome!
Cheers Bernd
Am Mo., 15. März 2021 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Željko Blaće <zblace@mi2.hr :
Thank you for starting this discussion. This NL paper is great as well as examples above and I would use it once in position to advocate in Croatia.
Maybe this particular incentive is something to coordinate with both CreativeCommons and Open Knowledge Foundation? Are representatives or members of those organizations in the list?
Best Z. Blace
On 3/14/21, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland rientjes@wikimedia.nl wrote:
Hallo Bernd,
Our partner the Institute for Sound and Vision (Instituut voor Beeld
en
Geluid) wrote this paper on their experiences with sharing content
from
public broadcasting.
https://publications.beeldengeluid.nl/pub/600
Best,
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
Op vr 12 mrt. 2021 17:32 schreef Bernd Fiedler bernd.fiedler@wikimedia.de:
Hello to all of you!
*tl;dr: I'm searching for suggestions / partners in approaching
public
broadcasters. They could provide free content. Let's tell them all
about
it!*
As you know, the international language communities in the Wikimedia Projects have adapted and built upon the content provided by the ZDF https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos_by_Terra_X
(biggest
Public Service Broadcaster in Germany). There are dubbed versions available in English, Dutch, Welsh and Esperanto. There are subtitles
available
in
numerous other languages.
Read more (3 min read) in this Wikimedia Foundations Blogpost
https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com/broadcast-by-the-public-for-the-public-a6...
or find more detailed "lessons learned" here (30 minutes talk + Q&A
@rc3
) https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-2020-140-public-service-public-value
The international public broadcasters can benefit from the
experiences
we've made here. They should now follow the leadership of various cultural institutions like the Dutch Rijksmuseum <
https://pro.europeana.eu/files/Europeana_Professional/Publications/Democrati...
who make their content more visible and beneficial to artists and educators worldwide and licence it freely. In a time of crisis, we can learn together.
So... I know of some Institutions who already tried out stuff with Creativecommons. But I don't want to approach international
broadcasters
w/o consulting with you first. Maybe there's already some
cooperation
on
other projects going on that I should know about or you know exactly
the
people to talk to.
If not, I'll just be sending mails and calls all over the place and
hope
to wake up the right people. But everything is more fun if we do it together ;)
Sincerely yours,
Bernd
Bernd Fiedler Projektmanager Politik Project Manager Public Policy
Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Mobil 0151 25 31 17 09 Büro (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
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