Jens,
Are people who expect DNS service to be free with metered Internet subscriptions opposed to net neutrality?
If DNS can be free under metered, neutral services, why can't other services be zero-rated?
Are there any reasons that zero-rating is as problematic as tiered for-pay services?
On Sunday, August 10, 2014, Jens Best jens.best@wikimedia.de wrote:
The discussion seems to be over:
According to the press Patricio Lorente, member of the Foundation's board, said:
"Access to information is a basic human right. If net neutrality is hurting a human right, we have to rethink net neutrality."
Haven't heard such a single-sided, unbalanced and self-righteous statment for a while.
So, people standing for net neutrality are now became enemies of basic human rights in the understanding of the foundation. - Well, if this low level of discussion is reached, I guess it doesn't make sense to discuss the subject with the foundation at all.
Byebye
Jens
2014-08-09 13:09 GMT+02:00 Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk');>:
Hello everyone. I don't actually have a solution, although I am thinking about it a lot. But for anyone who is in doubt about the potential difficulties that net neutrality faces because of Wikipedia Zero, I recommend they take a look at this blog. It is written from what I consider the "critical friend" perspective and articulates the arguments of Jens and others very clearly.
https://www.accessnow.org/blog/2014/08/08/wikipedia-zero-and-net-neutrality-...
It also reflects my own view pretty well. I hope we can have a calm and reasoned discussion about this issue this evening at the net politics beer.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 5 August 2014 07:08, Juergen Fenn <schneeschmelze@googlemail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','schneeschmelze@googlemail.com');> wrote:
2014-08-05 2:54 GMT+02:00 Lila Tretikov <lila@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lila@wikimedia.org');>:
We tend to go out pontificating on these lists. What would be helpful
is
solutioning. For net neutrality, how would you reconcile the need for
free
public access to information with the ideals of net neutrality? This
is the
library analogy. We believe libraries should exist in this new digital world. Do you advise that they cannot? And if they can, how should we articulate this better?
Go ahead and take a stab at it.
The solution probably is to go and partner with the libraries instead of the ISPs. Leave it to the libraries which ISP they choose. It is up to the libraries to provide access to resources for their users. They select the resources they provide and they mind the technical side behind it all. This is not the WMF's business. You only run the WP website and care about the community.
Regards, Jürgen.
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