Yuvi, Monte, Toby, ideas?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam, lets move this to a public list and engage Yuvi, Monte, and Toby to answer your questions.
--tomasz
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
The article loads for iOS and Android apps will no[w] both be in the web
logs.
But I can't tell if the pageview counting code is still accurate; also, there are two action=mobileview hits per page load in the apps, so it
seems
like it may be inaccurate from my read of it.
How can Analytics be engaged to straighten out the relevant section of
code?
I think the app release dates may have been pushed out a bit more, so it
may
not be an emergency, but I wanted to check on next steps.
Here's the relevant code from my understanding:
https://github.com/wikimedia/kraken/blob/master/kraken-generic/src/main/java...
I don't think action=view and action=query qualify as pageviews anymore
(at
least without even further qualification), if they ever were. It's
possible
the pageview counting code in the link above is only an intermediate
step in
the qualification of hits, but until we dig into it, it's an unknown.
I wonder if asking Analytics for action=view and action=query to be
removed,
and then to disqualify 1 of the 2 URL types for the apps would make
sense.
Or rather, asking them if it sounds okay and if we should then run it by
the
engineering mailing list for further refinement.
-Adam
+ Maryana/Oliver
We're pulling some data for the Metrics meeting this Thursday that you should be aware of. It's one of the first steps in unraveling how to define a pageview (or other engagement/reach metrics)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_Metrics#Datasets_and_deliver...
Specifically
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_Traffic/Implementation
-Toby
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yuvi, Monte, Toby, ideas?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam, lets move this to a public list and engage Yuvi, Monte, and Toby to answer your questions.
--tomasz
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
The article loads for iOS and Android apps will no[w] both be in the
web logs.
But I can't tell if the pageview counting code is still accurate; also, there are two action=mobileview hits per page load in the apps, so it
seems
like it may be inaccurate from my read of it.
How can Analytics be engaged to straighten out the relevant section of
code?
I think the app release dates may have been pushed out a bit more, so
it may
not be an emergency, but I wanted to check on next steps.
Here's the relevant code from my understanding:
https://github.com/wikimedia/kraken/blob/master/kraken-generic/src/main/java...
I don't think action=view and action=query qualify as pageviews anymore
(at
least without even further qualification), if they ever were. It's
possible
the pageview counting code in the link above is only an intermediate
step in
the qualification of hits, but until we dig into it, it's an unknown.
I wonder if asking Analytics for action=view and action=query to be
removed,
and then to disqualify 1 of the 2 URL types for the apps would make
sense.
Or rather, asking them if it sounds okay and if we should then run it
by the
engineering mailing list for further refinement.
-Adam
Sounds good. I'm already handling the two-API-requests problem (they request different sections, so it's trivial to uniformly exclude one kind).
On 28 April 2014 13:36, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
- Maryana/Oliver
We're pulling some data for the Metrics meeting this Thursday that you should be aware of. It's one of the first steps in unraveling how to define a pageview (or other engagement/reach metrics)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_Metrics#Datasets_and_deliver...
Specifically
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_Traffic/Implementation
-Toby
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yuvi, Monte, Toby, ideas?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam, lets move this to a public list and engage Yuvi, Monte, and Toby to answer your questions.
--tomasz
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
The article loads for iOS and Android apps will no[w] both be in the
web logs.
But I can't tell if the pageview counting code is still accurate; also, there are two action=mobileview hits per page load in the apps, so it
seems
like it may be inaccurate from my read of it.
How can Analytics be engaged to straighten out the relevant section of
code?
I think the app release dates may have been pushed out a bit more, so
it may
not be an emergency, but I wanted to check on next steps.
Here's the relevant code from my understanding:
https://github.com/wikimedia/kraken/blob/master/kraken-generic/src/main/java...
I don't think action=view and action=query qualify as pageviews
anymore (at
least without even further qualification), if they ever were. It's
possible
the pageview counting code in the link above is only an intermediate
step in
the qualification of hits, but until we dig into it, it's an unknown.
I wonder if asking Analytics for action=view and action=query to be
removed,
and then to disqualify 1 of the 2 URL types for the apps would make
sense.
Or rather, asking them if it sounds okay and if we should then run it
by the
engineering mailing list for further refinement.
-Adam
yes -- I should say we need to give Oliver some space until Thursday to get the data in a presentable state. But we look forward to working with you more closely on this in the near future.
-Toby
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sounds good. I'm already handling the two-API-requests problem (they request different sections, so it's trivial to uniformly exclude one kind).
On 28 April 2014 13:36, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
- Maryana/Oliver
We're pulling some data for the Metrics meeting this Thursday that you should be aware of. It's one of the first steps in unraveling how to define a pageview (or other engagement/reach metrics)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_Metrics#Datasets_and_deliver...
Specifically
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_Traffic/Implementation
-Toby
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yuvi, Monte, Toby, ideas?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tomasz Finc tfinc@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Adam, lets move this to a public list and engage Yuvi, Monte, and Toby to answer your questions.
--tomasz
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
The article loads for iOS and Android apps will no[w] both be in the
web logs.
But I can't tell if the pageview counting code is still accurate;
also,
there are two action=mobileview hits per page load in the apps, so it
seems
like it may be inaccurate from my read of it.
How can Analytics be engaged to straighten out the relevant section
of code?
I think the app release dates may have been pushed out a bit more, so
it may
not be an emergency, but I wanted to check on next steps.
Here's the relevant code from my understanding:
https://github.com/wikimedia/kraken/blob/master/kraken-generic/src/main/java...
I don't think action=view and action=query qualify as pageviews
anymore (at
least without even further qualification), if they ever were. It's
possible
the pageview counting code in the link above is only an intermediate
step in
the qualification of hits, but until we dig into it, it's an unknown.
I wonder if asking Analytics for action=view and action=query to be
removed,
and then to disqualify 1 of the 2 URL types for the apps would make
sense.
Or rather, asking them if it sounds okay and if we should then run it
by the
engineering mailing list for further refinement.
-Adam
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation