I noticed this spike [1] in editing errors on mobile so have investigated it.
These were the types of errors occuring on that day [2] NULL 23 autoblocked 5 badtoken 8 blocked 88 editconflict 2014 HTTP error 69 nosuchsection 8 pagedeleted 1 protectedpage 246 ratelimited 34 rvnosuchsection 7
Sadly 1649 of these users were trying to make their first edit [3] And most of these problems were on enwiki [4]:
dewiki 5 enwiki 1997 eswiki 1 frwiki 4 jawiki 1 kowiki 4 ptwiki 1 ruwiki 1
Looking closer at the timestamps the majority of enwiki errors (1909 of them) happened between 1am and 3am on Tuesday the 19th November UTC [5] with 1844 of these occurring between 2.30am and 3am [6]. This would be around Monday 18th November 5pm-7pm PST. All these edits happened in stable mode. Does anyone know why might have been responsible?
[1] http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/error-edits [2] select event_errorText, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119000000 and timestamp < 20131120000000 group by event_errorText [3] select event_errorText, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119000000 and timestamp < 20131120000000 and event_errorText = 'editconflict' and event_userEditCount = 0 [4] select wiki, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119000000 and timestamp < 20131120000000 and event_errorText = 'editconflict' group by wiki [5] select wiki, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119010000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_errorText = 'editconflict' group by wiki [6] select wiki, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_errorText = 'editconflict' group by wiki
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Looking closer at the timestamps the majority of enwiki errors (1909 of them) happened between 1am and 3am on Tuesday the 19th November UTC [5] with 1844 of these occurring between 2.30am and 3am [6]. This would be around Monday 18th November 5pm-7pm PST. All these edits happened in stable mode. Does anyone know why might have been responsible?
What pages were these happening on? Many articles or just a few?
Very good question and very revealing: 3645029 7 32680056 2 33428103 11 36640339 12 39528154 1 40026816 4 40462095 1384
[1] select event_pageId, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_errorText = 'editconflict' group by event_pageId
Wow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Looking closer at the timestamps the majority of enwiki errors (1909 of them) happened between 1am and 3am on Tuesday the 19th November UTC [5] with 1844 of these occurring between 2.30am and 3am [6]. This would be around Monday 18th November 5pm-7pm PST. All these edits happened in stable mode. Does anyone know why might have been responsible?
What pages were these happening on? Many articles or just a few?
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and rev_timestamp
between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000'; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.orgwrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
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Isn't data interesting?!
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000';
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Someone should write this up as a Wikimedia blog post, as a story about how (if I may put this way for brevity) Wikipedia isn't just for geeks.
Andy yes most definitely. It's on my to do list to work on a blog post around interesting data points like this... :)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
Someone should write this up as a Wikimedia blog post, as a story about how (if I may put this way for brevity) Wikipedia isn't just for geeks.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
On Nov 22, 2013 8:44 PM, "Jon Robson" jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Isn't data interesting?!
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000';
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
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FYI here is the top 100 most edited articles on mobile. Happy friday!
Fifth_Harmony142Nowshera_District142Kkangpae142Person_to_Bunny134 Yours_Truly_(Ariana_Grande_album)117Eric_Acho_Nwakanma113 Heber-Overgaard,_Arizona111Singam_II107SheZow922014_Formula_One_season90 2013–14_Lincoln_City_F.C._season83Pro_Evolution_Soccer_201482 Olatunde_olalekan80Hilary_Duff77Chennai_Express75 2013–14_UEFA_Youth_League_squads71Tell_Mama_UK71Subway_Surfers70The_Vamps69 Protection_from_Harassment_Act_199767Big_Brother_15_(U.S.)67Quiero_Amarte66 2013_Suzhou_Ladies_Open_–_Doubles66Whodunnit?_(U.S._TV_series)65 Flipnote_Studio_3D64FC_Petrolul_Ploiești_in_European_football63 Siberia_(TV_series)62Michelle_Rocca62Ancestry_of_Elizabeth_II62 Just_Dance_201460Abel_Xavier60List_of_serial_killers_in_the_United_States60 Looney_Tunes_and_Merrie_Melodies_filmography_(1960–69)58Tiësto58Melilla56 Simran_Kaur_Mundi552013_Muzaffarnagar_riots54Tibbie_Tamson54 Raman_Munjal_Vidya_Mandir542013_UK_Kabaddi_Cup52Hardcore_punk51Mundi51 Once_Upon_Ay_Time_In_Mumbai_Dobaara!51Sean_Shields50Lalgudi50 Nimbin,_New_South_Wales50Thiruthuraipoondi49Louis_Tomlinson47 2013_MTV_Video_Music_Awards47Island_Park,_New_York47Bad_Moon46 Muhammad_Hassan_(wrestler)46Dasam_Granth46Indian_Idol_Junior46 Guy_Code_Honors46Alessandro_Zarrelli46Chabad45Jessie_Graff44 Indian_National_Rally_Championship44Vitória_S.C.44Chabad44 List_of_Hollyoaks_characters43One_Direction:_This_Is_Us41 Colegio_San_José,_San_Germán,_PR41The_Expendables_341Suriya41Jat_people41 List_of_Pretty_Little_Liars_characters41Lalgudi_taluk40Saleh_Khana40 History_of_Roman_Catholicism_in_Portugal40Knattspyrnufélag_Reykjavíkur40 Roar_(song)40Dancing_with_the_Stars_(U.S._season_17)40Charlamagne_Tha_God40 Robot_Wars_(TV_series)38Ain't_That_America_(TV_series)38 Guerino_Vanoli_Basket38Cruzinha37List_of_double_bassists_in_popular_music37 James_R._Biard37Happy_New_Year_(2014_film)37Combatant_Clergy_Association37 Thalaivaa37Brendan_Mundorf36Carvel_(restaurant)36Ridiculousness_(TV_series) 36Samuel_C._Morrison,_Jr.36Mick_Woods36Bikini_Atoll36Guy_Code36 Marido_en_Alquiler36Jewish_question36Austin_Mahone36 2014_IndyCar_Series_season36A_Bathing_Ape36Sethi35Platform_for_Catalonia35 List_of_programs_broadcast_by_YTV35Chamillitary_Entertainment35
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Andy yes most definitely. It's on my to do list to work on a blog post around interesting data points like this... :)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
Someone should write this up as a Wikimedia blog post, as a story about
how
(if I may put this way for brevity) Wikipedia isn't just for geeks.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
On Nov 22, 2013 8:44 PM, "Jon Robson" jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Isn't data interesting?!
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000';
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling <
swalling@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.orgwrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
That makes perfect sense, since an edit conflict doesn't lead to a successful edit stored in the revision table :)
Aaron, if you're interested in lining this up with *attempted* mobile edits, there's a schema tracking the mobile edit funnel (attempts, saves, errors) in log.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and
rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000'; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.orgwrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Indeed. The thing that I find curious is that 3 times as many edits were lost as were saved.
Then again, it would be nice to know how many got their edits in on retry.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinchuk@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.orgwrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
That makes perfect sense, since an edit conflict doesn't lead to a successful edit stored in the revision table :)
Aaron, if you're interested in lining this up with *attempted* mobile edits, there's a schema tracking the mobile edit funnel (attempts, saves, errors) in log.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and
rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000'; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.orgwrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memoriesthe new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
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There were 710 attempts to edit that article [1] by 297 unique users [A], 1618 errors [2] by 290 unique users [B] and 12 successful edits [3] by 12 unique users [C].
There were 1829 clicks on the save button [4] by 345 users [5] (note the increase in users is due to people who started the editing workflow before the start timestamp).
The fact that 290 users hit 1618 errors suggests users retried their edits various times. Error handling in mobile is dumb - it just allows you to retry and doesn't even tell you that an edit conflict occurred.
So yes lots of edits were lost due to this and mobile could probably improve its edit conflict handling as this event lost it about 290 potential edits.
[1] select count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'attempt' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId = 40462095 [2] select count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId = 40462095 [3] select count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'success' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId = 40462095 [A] select count(distinct event_userName) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'attempt' and timestamp
20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId =
40462095 [B] select count(distinct event_userName) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'error' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId = 40462095 [C] select count(distinct event_userName) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'success' and timestamp
20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId =
40462095 [4] select count(*) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'submit' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId = 40462095 [5] select count(distinct event_userName) from MobileWebEditing_6077315 where event_action = 'submit' and timestamp > 20131119023000 and timestamp < 20131119030000 and event_pageId = 40462095
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
Indeed. The thing that I find curious is that 3 times as many edits were lost as were saved.
Then again, it would be nice to know how many got their edits in on retry.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinchuk@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
That makes perfect sense, since an edit conflict doesn't lead to a successful edit stored in the revision table :)
Aaron, if you're interested in lining this up with attempted mobile edits, there's a schema tracking the mobile edit funnel (attempts, saves, errors) in log.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000';
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memories the new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
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Oh those teenages and their mobile devices...
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Indeed. The thing that I find curious is that 3 times as many edits were lost as were saved.
Then again, it would be nice to know how many got their edits in on retry.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinchuk@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker <ahalfaker@wikimedia.org
wrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
That makes perfect sense, since an edit conflict doesn't lead to a successful edit stored in the revision table :)
Aaron, if you're interested in lining this up with *attempted* mobile edits, there's a schema tracking the mobile edit funnel (attempts, saves, errors) in log.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and
rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000'; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling <swalling@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.orgwrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memoriesthe new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Should we consider integrating with Snapchat to capture that particular market?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kenan Wang kwang@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oh those teenages and their mobile devices...
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfaker@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Indeed. The thing that I find curious is that 3 times as many edits were lost as were saved.
Then again, it would be nice to know how many got their edits in on retry.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinchuk@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker < ahalfaker@wikimedia.org> wrote:
There are fewer edits than there were edit conflicts.
That makes perfect sense, since an edit conflict doesn't lead to a successful edit stored in the revision table :)
Aaron, if you're interested in lining this up with *attempted* mobile edits, there's a schema tracking the mobile edit funnel (attempts, saves, errors) in log.
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095;
+----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 1216 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.05 sec)
select count(*) from revision where rev_page = 40462095 and
rev_timestamp between '20131119023000' and '20131119030000'; +----------+ | count(*) | +----------+ | 403 | +----------+ 1 row in set (0.12 sec)
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Steven Walling < swalling@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.orgwrote:
40462095 1384
And the winner is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Memoriesthe new album by boy band One Direction.
So basically, 1384 teenage girls all edit conflicted with each other. ;)
-- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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