Sure, and I'm all for trying new things - if you know me you know this
is the case - I'm all for stabs at anything. It was just something
interesting I saw in the apps that I hadn't come across before, and I
was wondering about it for the purpose of mobile web and whether such
a thing would be useful there.
It wasn't 100% clear to me however what the goals for canned edit
summaries were and what the rationale was for it - hence this
discussion. I imagine there is data to back up the need for this, but
there is no conversation anywhere on a mailing list - so hence this
conversation and a request to please share that and show me they are
useful so I spend my free time coding it for mobile web :-).
I know I personally with an autocomplete/tag setup would become lazy.
Whereas I might currently use an edit summary like "it's->its" might
instead resort to the easy "Spelling/grammar change". I don't know
which of those edit summaries would be more useful to the people that
deal with them on a day to day basis.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I worry tags will encourage laziness and on the long term not very
useful summaries for poor wiki patrollers. There are other ways to
educate e.g. help icon that elaborates or "see some examples".
Jon: don't worry about that. We already use mass revision tagging
effectively this way with AbuseFilter, and in extensions like
GettingStarted, mobile, or VisualEditor. Patrollers see thousands and
thousands of edits, and these tags really do help with context.
I think it's good to do some exploratory design with canned edit summaries,
if we keep in mind that this is new and we've never put something like this
in production before. It may or may not work, but it doesn't hurt to take a
stab at it. In my mind, the challenge here is not the UI. Whether it's tags
or a dropdown or whatever we can work out easily. The hard part is figuring
out what edit summaries are so common that they should be canned. Since
there are so many different kinds of edits, that's the difficult part.
--
Steven Walling,
Product Manager
https://wikimediafoundation.org/