There is no "fear" of more Commons users; there is (valid) concern that
Commons will get a large influx of pictures from one-time users, and that
most of these pictures may have to be deleted. We have seen this even for
"pre-selected" user groups; when some Wikipedias (Portuguese for one, I
vaguely remember) switched to Commons-only, it caused a clash of cultures
between Wikipedia-based uploaders on "unsuitable" files and Commons admins.
While better tools would certainly not hurt, the idea of a Commons staging
area has been around for a while. But I would like to extend that beyond a
simple "selfie filter" for mobile uploads. It could also be used to label,
organize, and prepare images before moving them to Commons proper. From
Wikipedians-protograph-politicians (German Wikimedia organised this some
time ago), over personal photo collections sitting on a hard drive (I have
a couplea hundred plat pictures from the local Botanic Garden that need
labelling), to GLAM institutions wanting to upload thousands of images,
such a site could be a first port of call. It would allow quick, easy
upload of files, serve as a filter (admin rights may not be required),
allow for batch editing of metadata, and (finally) fully automated upload
to Commons.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:00 AM Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org> wrote:
On 15.04.2015 18:05, Brian Gerstle wrote:
I'm just troubled by some of the language
used here, and elsewhere,
which describes a "fear" of more users. I can't help but wonder how many
companies or services would readily welcome a "massive influx of users."
How will Wikipedia or Commons succeed if we're afraid growth?
Indeed, kinda of bizarre discussion... in particular for an open
movement like our. IMO, the consequence of listening too much a few
Commons people who feel themself in a fortress under siege (we have a
few of them in all projects). For example, the GLAMwikitoolset is kept
away from Commons users based on this kind of closeminded/feared arguments.
Like written later in this thread, we simply need user friendly tool for
both users and administrators. But, to get them, you need to experiment
the real problems, make bug reports, wait, etc... For a few people, this
seems more simple to simply block progresses...
Anyway, braking software development to keep contributor's life
complicated and impairing contribution is definitely not a solution.
Emmanuel
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