Mobile-l August 2014

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New Wikipedia Android app production release
by Bernd Sitzmann 16 Aug '14

16 Aug '14

Today's update to the Wikipedia app[1] includes the following changes: Add Today menu Dark theme: appearance of images, background on editing screens, remove inline colors from within tables References with page internal links work now Fix crash when clicking on link in references panel Show number of matches when finding in page (4.1+) Remove flashing of empty message in saved pages/history screens during loading Language variants for Chinese It's basically the same as the beta we pushed on Monday minus the experimental features. It may take an hour or two before it is visible for everybody. A link to the apk is also available[2]. Enjoy! Bernd [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia [2]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Release_history#Wikipedia

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WG: AW: Article history and categories
by Florian Schmidt 16 Aug '14

16 Aug '14

Forgot mobile-l, so just forwarding. Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Forwarded message ----- Von: "Florian Schmidt" <florian.schmidt.welzow(a)t-online.de> An: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> Betreff: AW: [WikimediaMobile] Article history and categories Datum: Do., Aug. 14, 2014 13:17 Hello, in Mobile Web there is a feature in alpha mode (settings->beta->settings>experimental) to show categories of a page as a seperate, last expandable section. I don't know when this goes to beta/stable. Kind regards Florian Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Reply message ----- Von: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> An: <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: [WikimediaMobile] Article history and categories Datum: Do., Aug. 14, 2014 08:28 Any chance of including these links in the Android mobile app and in mobile web? Categories are the subject of a current IEG research project and their omission from mobile might be significant. Article history can be accessed in mobile web through the strapline, but not at all in the mobile Android app. Thanks, Pine

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Browser tests - don't panic
by Juliusz Gonera 15 Aug '14

15 Aug '14

Dan Duvall and I worked on his patch refactoring MobileFrontend browser tests yesterday [1]. We got over half of the tests working on mediawiki-vagrant, but we might have caused some breakage on betalabs/jenkins. The last two builds have lots of failures (over 30), but that doesn't mean that the features themselves are broken. We'll figure it out soon. In general the changes we made were necessary and hopefully will help get everyone running browser tests on their dev instances in the near future. Another nice thing added by Dan is the possiblity of specifying browser tests dependency on other extensions as seen in [2]. Those browser tests will not run (will be skipped) if an extension is not enabled. Instead developers will see a warning saying which extension needs to be enabled to run them. Dan, thanks for all this work. [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/147115/ [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152993/ -- Juliusz

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Article history and categories
by Pine W 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

Any chance of including these links in the Android mobile app and in mobile web? Categories are the subject of a current IEG research project and their omission from mobile might be significant. Article history can be accessed in mobile web through the strapline, but not at all in the mobile Android app. Thanks, Pine

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ToC in Android app
by Dmitry Brant 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

True story: My girlfriend was using the Android app yesterday on her device, and she told me, "It would be great if you had an option to jump to specific sections... It's difficult to scroll all the way down to the section I'm looking for!" :)

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Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games
by Monte Hurd 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

I hate to dissent, but I don't think a separate app is the way to go at this time for a few reasons. First, many of the types of contributions to wikidata that we've talked about game-ifying are article specific. ie, "have user read some portion of an article and summarize what it's about in 5 words or less", etc. This would mean we'd need search and browse etc, and my gut tells me a variety of other context and interactions the existing app provides would need to be recreated. If the existing app could launch the game app, that could be one way to provide context, but from a UX perspective, we would otherwise be limiting ourselves to tasks that didn't require heavy back-and-forth comparisons and the transition between apps, at least on iOS, is super annoying (the way Facebook swaps out to Messenger annoys the hell out of me). I also think, at this time, our limited resources are better spent carefully crafting one or two gamed interactions which we can carefully insert into the existing app rather than having to solve the inevitable wider set of challenges a new app would present. The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"... tl:dr, game-ify yes, other app no/not now > On Aug 9, 2014, at 17:37, mobile-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > > Send Mobile-l mailing list submissions to > mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mobile-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mobile-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mobile-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Tomasz Finc) > 2. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games > (May Tee-Galloway) > 3. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Dmitry Brant) > 4. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Moiz Syed) > 5. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Yuvi Panda) > 6. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Bernd Sitzmann) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:35:41 +0100 > From: Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> > To: mobile-l <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAMxhqbdO_ARWufx-LTSruXaDAsjmeOvcrc3MeZdq7dsQiX1acA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at > Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted > to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been > many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. > > I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest > in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick > contributions. > > The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell > that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, > curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of > dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the > interest in this. > > I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of > experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would > frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute > in ways that doesn't exist yet. > > Do let know > > --tomasz > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:11:04 +0100 > From: May Tee-Galloway <mgalloway(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> > Cc: mobile-l <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAN4BDz4AE=+XCM=6+OY6_1h5sDLbjuzg7d5U72Hjn11cXY1Fug(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > You got a designer here! > > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >> >> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >> contributions. >> >> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >> interest in this. >> >> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >> >> Do let know >> >> --tomasz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >

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by mobile-l＠lists.wikimedia.org 12 Aug '14

12 Aug '14

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Lila's keynote speech at Wikimania 2014
by Pine W 10 Aug '14

10 Aug '14

Hi all, I would like to encourage those of us who may have missed Lila's keynote speech at Wikimania to listen to it. [1] In her speech, Lila takes a long view of Wikimedia's history and future. She talks about incremental and disruptive changes that are happening socially and technologically such as the shift toward mobile and wearable computing, and the use of technology in the developing world. She also talks about modes of contribution, and changes inside the Wikimedia projects that would encourage more people to participate actively. Thanks very much, Lila. I look forward to seeing how the trends and opportunities that you describe are addressed in our new strategic plan. Pine [1] http://new.livestream.com/wikimania/saturday2014

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Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games
by Tomasz Finc 10 Aug '14

10 Aug '14

It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick contributions. The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the interest in this. I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute in ways that doesn't exist yet. Do let know --tomasz

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Main page - good practices, future plans
by Amir E. Aharoni 09 Aug '14

09 Aug '14

Hi, The Hebrew Wikipedia community is questioning the current design of the Mobile main page, and this raises some questions about the mobile main page design for all languages. I don't have a strong opinion myself, but the current tendency is to show all the boxes rather than just a few, as it is now. This begs the question - is it really good for mobile readers? For example, is the mobile main page very popular at all, or is there much more traffic to the articles? Is there a difference between mobile main page traffic in the app and in the mobile web? Are there any known good practices for mobile main page design? Finally, what is the plan for the future development of the main page? The current software still uses HTML ids like "mp-tfa"; is there a plan to change it? Thanks! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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