Mobile-l May 2014

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[spike] Determine where the performance problems are with VE
by Jon Robson 28 May '14

28 May '14

I was tasked with investigating why on large pages, mobile takes longer to load a page then VE. To do this I loaded a template heavy page in both mobile and desktop and ran JavaScript profiling on both. In desktop7.9% of time was spent in jQuery.extend.css - this was the most heavy function. In mobile it was also the most heavy - however in mobile a whopping 23.76% of time was spent in jQuery.extend.css In mobile 14360 calls were made to by both desktop and mobile to get the value of float. Looking closer at what was calling these I found it was related to phantom element. So it looks like fixing the following bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64709 will help improve performance in mobile drastically. I imagine the slowdown is related to the fact that on desktop existing content is replaced with VisualEditor interface but on mobile there are more DOM elements as VisualEditor is opened in an overlay on top of the content. Specifically the calls inside this callback that hog the most are: 1) $this.css( 'float' ); 2) node.$.context.importNode( $shieldTemplate[0], true )

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Test failures -> Trello: Introducing Sellello
by Jon Robson 27 May '14

27 May '14

A new tool to add to the Bingle and Bugello family - introduce Selello Selello checks the state of RSS feeds published by Jenkins relating to failed browser tests e.g. this one for MobileFrontend[1] When a browser test has been failing for a considerable time e.g. for the last 3 builds it will post a card to Trello. No card will be posted on the 4th or 5th time the tests fail. An output card can be found here: https://trello.com/c/BFoSR3XY/58-firefox-build-575-failing-selenium-tests e.g. It will only post a card if 1) The current build is failing 2) The last build to pass was over 3 runs ago. I'm hoping this will be a better alert mechanism than the current notification emails. Please help me get this reviewed and up and running! [2] [1] https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/job/MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs… [2] https://github.com/wikimedia/bingle/pull/38

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VisualEditor broken on mobile
by Jon Robson 27 May '14

27 May '14

According to our tests, VisualEditor is broken. It seems to be another targets issue We should get this fixed ASAP Card: https://trello.com/c/w2MNCzTP/69-chrome-build-461-failing-selenium-tests Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65823

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[Apps] Blockers for sign-off
by Dan Garry 24 May '14

24 May '14

Hey everyone, I've done all of the sign off that I can. There's quite a few cards left in the sign-off column, so I'm going to explain why each one's been left there and what's blocking us from moving forwards. Each card is linked to in the first sentence. *Browsing controls <https://trello.com/c/BOEUXAM6/5-1-as-a-user-i-would-like-browsing-controls-…> *and *search <https://trello.com/c/CPYeJAkM/21-3-as-a-user-i-can-search-from-the-top-chro…>:* I think the new browsing controls and search look fantastic! I'd like the designers to double-check the card and app to make sure they're happy with it too (I've CCd them in case they're not on this list). If they're happy, we can sign off on it. I have one minor niggle with search (documented on the card), but I think it's okay to solve that after the first release. *CSS resources <https://trello.com/c/Bei6hEaD/40-3-point-the-apps-to-online-extension-mobil…>:* I'm unclear what the user-facing aspect of this is, so I don't know how to sign off. Yuvi (or anyone else), can you offer clarification? *Don't auto-clear history <https://trello.com/c/4UW2MZ9v/62-don-t-clear-history-items-after-30-days>: *This one is awkward to test because it relies on both the app *not* doing something, and also it not doing it after 30 days have elapsed! I'm unsure how to sign off on it. Advice, devs? Everything else is signed off. Thanks guys! Dan -- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps Wikimedia Foundation

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Showing the number of talk topics on the article page
by Jon Robson 24 May '14

24 May '14

In the alpha mode of mobile we show a number inside the talk icon that shows how many open talk topics there are on a page. For example here: On the San Francisco [1] page you see a 7. If you click it there are 7 topics / sections. The code has been stagnating for some time, which is a real shame in my opinion as it surfaces the talk page and discussions more. It works by generating a number of sections on each save and storing them in a page property to avoid performance implications. I personally find it very intriguing when I see a high discussion count on what seems like a non-controversial topic. e.g. Tofu has 37 open topics and makes me curious to click on it and read what people have been discussing around it [2] It's hard to measure the impact of the talk bubble when it is displayed like this. I'd be interested to do some sort of A/B test around it to see whether more people visit the talk page when the number is shown - I'm not sure if Growth has any plans to do this. Also I wonder if this is something Flow is thinking about. Either way can we make a decision and either kill this code, or bring it into beta mode? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco?mobileaction=alpha [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu?mobileaction=alpha

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Kill dynamic page views?
by Max Semenik 23 May '14

23 May '14

No, seriously. It had been in alpha since forever, we routinely spend our precious time on fixing bugs in it but it never was usable enough even for promotion to beta. Let's not waste resources on it and kill it. -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page
by Jon Robson 23 May '14

23 May '14

> Then people would avoid starting a talk page when the number is 0. This is, in my view, a bad thing. This is a valid assumption and one we could test. A zero might even prompt new discussions. We'll never know unless we explore it. I'm just curious if there are any plans to test this and other similar hypotheses. > This number would have to be generated by MediaWiki or Flow, but surely not by MobileFrontEnd. As I said, MobileFrontEnd is only a skin. Not true. MobileFrontend has a few more bits of code that make it a little more than a skin - e.g. special pages like Special:Nearby. It currently records this number via a hook and is agnostic to Flow and MediaWiki (although this code could easily be added to MediaWiki core to be standardised)

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Image Quality on the Mobile Web
by Adam Baso 23 May '14

23 May '14

Heads up: The MediaWiki core change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119661/ for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Reducing_image_quality_… being rolled out. The next step we think is to rewrite the <img> tags on a popular page (e.g., http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats) when Wikipedia Zero is in force in order to give this a run in production. We'll share findings once a patch is written and implemented taking advantage of the image quality URL rewriting capability. -Adam

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page
by Jon Robson 23 May '14

23 May '14

"Unless you find a use-case which you're addressing, don't code this please." We coding this over a year ago on this basis but nothing has been done with it. My question that I am wondering if we should explore the answer to is: "Does showing the number of talk topics on an article increase engagement in discussions?" (Note evidence from many user tests that have been run in the past 2 years give me the impression that many non-editors are not aware there is a discussion side to Wikipedia) "It is. There is no need to code things twice - as mobile interface is merely a skin." I'm not sure what you mean here. The mobile team has been thinking about doing this, this doesn't mean Flow has been. I'm not sure what skins have to do with anything here. Yes Flow could easily surface such a number but the number would have to be generated and surfaced somewhere since Flow is implemented completely differently. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Gryllida <gryllida(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 23 May 2014, at 21:44, Jon Robson wrote: >> In the alpha mode of mobile we show a number inside the talk icon that >> shows how many open talk topics there are on a page. >> >> For example here: >> On the San Francisco [1] page you see a 7. If you click it there are 7 >> topics / sections. > > Horrendous task. I'd use a talk icon instead - the count never matters. The only case is when I care whether there is 0 or not, so I know whether it's worth skimming anything against my concern or I should start a new topic. > > Unless you find a use-case which you're addressing, don't code this please. > >> Also I wonder if this is something Flow is thinking about. > > It is. There is no need to code things twice - as mobile interface is merely a skin. > > Gryllida. > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > Design(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design

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Question about Table of Contents
by Jon Robson 23 May '14

23 May '14

Pages without first headings or 2nd headings will show a table of contents at the end of the page. Maryana what would you advise doing in this situation? Since we are pushing this to stable it's probably worth making a call on how to treat this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60478 (a third option is do nothing - although it seems weird having a table of contents at the end of the page :-))

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