I have spotted the following problem:
When I mass subscribe users there are some options listed to add description to email:
The following formats are accepted: jdoe@example.com jdoe@example.com John Doe jdoe@example.com "John Doe" jdoe@example.com jdoe@example.com (John Doe)
Unfortunately this does not work. Regardless of how I put the name the list of users only contains the address but not the name. I cannot also find a way for the group admin to add the description later.
Am I missing something?
masti
Hi,
On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 10:21 +0100, mastigm wrote:
When I mass subscribe users [...] Regardless of how I put the name the list of users only contains the address but not the name.
See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/391
Cheers, andre
On 20.12.2023 12:31, Andre Klapper wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 10:21 +0100, mastigm wrote:
When I mass subscribe users [...] Regardless of how I put the name the list of users only contains the address but not the name.
See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/391
Cheers, andre
thanks, but that does not explain why most of the users have their names displayed.
I even added 1 subscriber recently and it got the name. Adding next with exactly the same syntax resulted in no name. The only difference is that the first one was already in the table and i created second entry with different email. So it looks that the names are stored in the database but the list interface does not store them properly. :(
masti
On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 23:17 +0100, mastigm wrote:
On 20.12.2023 12:31, Andre Klapper wrote:
On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 10:21 +0100, mastigm wrote:
When I mass subscribe users [...] Regardless of how I put the name the list of users only contains the address but not the name.
thanks, but that does not explain why most of the users have their names displayed.
If you think that you found a bug, feel free to file a bug report. (This mailing list reaches all and any list admins and I doubt that all of them are interested in debugging Mailman's behavior.)
Thanks for your understanding, andre
This is intended behaviour; it is not a bug.
The current version of Mailman is much easier to manage for the individual subscriber: all of their subscriptions show up on one list, they can manage their subscriptions easily, and so on. In order for this subscriber feature to work, it means that there is a single list of all subscribers. Thus, if someone has already subscribed to one Mailman mailing list, their email address will show up in the same manner in all lists, most frequently looking like "joe@whatever.com": When that person is subscribed to a new list, their email address will show up in that manner, no matter how the listadmin enters it when subscribing the user.
It's a bit more of a nuisance for listadmins who had previously used the user subscription function to make some kind of annotation about the user. I asked about this very early after the changeover because we used to annotate subscribers to the Checkuser-L mailing list with the name of their project, but could no longer do it. This was verified by the developers who installed the upgraded version.
It's a minor inconvenience for listadmins, but a significant feature for subscribers to multiple lists.
Risker/Anne (Listadmin for multiple mailing lists)
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 17:17, mastigm mastigm@gmail.com wrote:
On 20.12.2023 12:31, Andre Klapper wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 10:21 +0100, mastigm wrote:
When I mass subscribe users [...] Regardless of how I put the name the list of users only contains the address but not the name.
See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/391
Cheers, andre
thanks, but that does not explain why most of the users have their names displayed.
I even added 1 subscriber recently and it got the name. Adding next with exactly the same syntax resulted in no name. The only difference is that the first one was already in the table and i created second entry with different email. So it looks that the names are stored in the database but the list interface does not store them properly. :(
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Hi,
thanks for clarification. Now it makes sense to me.
masti
On 21.12.2023 04:22, Risker wrote:
This is intended behaviour; it is not a bug.
The current version of Mailman is much easier to manage for the individual subscriber: all of their subscriptions show up on one list, they can manage their subscriptions easily, and so on. In order for this subscriber feature to work, it means that there is a single list of all subscribers. Thus, if someone has already subscribed to one Mailman mailing list, their email address will show up in the same manner in all lists, most frequently looking like "joe@whatever.com": When that person is subscribed to a new list, their email address will show up in that manner, no matter how the listadmin enters it when subscribing the user.
It's a bit more of a nuisance for listadmins who had previously used the user subscription function to make some kind of annotation about the user. I asked about this very early after the changeover because we used to annotate subscribers to the Checkuser-L mailing list with the name of their project, but could no longer do it. This was verified by the developers who installed the upgraded version.
It's a minor inconvenience for listadmins, but a significant feature for subscribers to multiple lists.
Risker/Anne (Listadmin for multiple mailing lists)
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 17:17, mastigm mastigm@gmail.com wrote:
On 20.12.2023 12:31, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 10:21 +0100, mastigm wrote: >> When I mass subscribe users [...] Regardless of how I put the name >> the list of users only contains the address but not the name. > See https://gitlab.com/mailman/postorius/-/issues/391 > > Cheers, > andre thanks, but that does not explain why most of the users have their names displayed. I even added 1 subscriber recently and it got the name. Adding next with exactly the same syntax resulted in no name. The only difference is that the first one was already in the table and i created second entry with different email. So it looks that the names are stored in the database but the list interface does not store them properly. :( masti _______________________________________________ Listadmins mailing list -- listadmins@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to listadmins-leave@lists.wikimedia.org To request technical changes for a specific list, please instead create a task in Phabricator. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
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