Listadmins September 2015

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RfC: Standardization of Wikimedia Mailing lists (proposal)
by John Lewis 25 Sep '15

25 Sep '15

Hi everyone, As you are all aware we've been working on the mailman installation that the Foundation uses. As the bulk of the work was done, I have been focusing on improving documentation and aiming to start a discussion over the standardization of all mailing lists. I have just now uploaded a proposal that I have been working on (with help from others) and request the comments of the community to work on building it into an official policy. The proposal can be found on Meta-Wiki < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Standardization> and the RfC is taking place on its talk page. Let's all work together on standardizing the lists installation and creating a basic policy to ensure everything is consistent and thus easier to use! Thanks, John Lewis

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mailman upgrade next week - Sep 9th 1400 UTC
by Daniel Zahn 19 Sep '15

19 Sep '15

Hi, (back to just announcements on this list but this is one) We have scheduled an upgrade of mailman (https://lists.wikimedia.org) for: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 2:00:00 PM UTC ( 7:00 AM PDT, 16:00 CEST) The scheduled mainteance window is 4 hours (or less). During this time please expect all the mailing lists (web interface and email) to be down. We will shut down the old server, then sync all pending mail to the new server and bring it back up there. The upgrade includes mailman from 2.1.13 to 2.1.18 and the server OS will become a Debian jessie server and will be virtualized. More things we expect to be fixed by this (excerpts): "DMARC improvements solve issues users have with Yahoo and Outlook regarding mail." "Password reminder link is now on the roster page (private archives)." "Emails can be automatically accepted to private lists if a poster password is used" "Cookies now set the secure flag when over HTTPS" "Emails are validated more accurately. Spam prevention." "Sessions can be invalidated through logouts on administrator and moderation interfaces." refs: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailman , https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105756 , Will follow-up with one other mail once it's done. As said above this was supposed to be just an announcement since this list should be low volume. Discussion/comments should probably be elsewhere.If you ask me i prefer Phabricator personally because think it's more effective to have tasks and discussion in the same place. Best regards, Daniel -- Daniel Zahn <dzahn(a)wikimedia.org> Operations Engineer

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If you are receiving "Uncaught bounce notificaton"s regarding postmaster@txt.att.net...
by Tilman Bayer 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

...then you might be interested in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112912 . -- Tilman Bayer Senior Analyst Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB

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[Discussion] tips for moderating lists, especially fighting spam
by Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

[A thread for discussing tips, and sharing how-to. Updates should be made (by anyone confident) to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration *Non-private questions should be asked at the talkpage there.* Mute this thread if you don't want to see it and you use an email program that enables that... :-) ] Re: SpamAssassin's X-Spam-Score - There was a bugzilla/phab task related to spam, at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58525 ("Improve spam filtering for Mailman mailing lists") I've asked for an update and details about what we should use, at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mailing_lists/Administration#Spam.21 - Reply THERE please! I've detailed my daily process at another new section just below that. If there's something better, please let us know, there! ... (Probably nothing private in here, but I haven't had enough coffee yet, so instead of asking at the talkpage...) I just learned about the option to Not send me a copy of every bounce. So that will be nice! (bottom radio-button in this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/hu5SR8h.png) Is that a good setting to recommend to all admins on the wiki page? Is there a way to get useful regex out of our current lists of "auto-discard"? (my grep-fu and regex-fu are lacking). Here are the addresses that I've moderated spam from, on 2 lists: https://dpaste.de/CgxV/raw Perhaps the mailinglists that get large quantities of spam, could somehow share (automatically, or manually a few times a year) their auto-discard-listings? Hope that helps. /me goes back to his weekend, and wishes you a good one. -- Quiddity

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deleting held messages after 90 days
by Daniel Zahn 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Hello list admins, we have found that globally we had over half a million mails in mailman lists that were not moderated. So that means they got held in the moderation queues but were not accepted or discarded. We have started deleting the oldest ones first (over 1 year old) then moved to (older than 6 months). We are planning to setup an automated cron job to do this automatically in the background. Currently the plan is to delete all messages that are held and older than 90 days. Please let us know if any concerns and moderate a bit more if this affects your list. Thank you and best regards, Daniel -- Daniel Zahn <dzahn(a)wikimedia.org> Operations Engineer

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