So the
pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is owned
simultaneously by everyone?
Sure, just like mediawiki codebase is collectively
own.
Personally I do not see that as a problem and regardless I think it reflects
reality, analytics team -as I mentioned before- doesn't have the knowledge
or authority to "decide" what constitutes a search pageview without talking
to the team/devs/community memebers that actually know how search works.
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
So the pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is
owned simultaneously by everyone?
On 3 December 2015 at 12:54, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>Who does own it?
> On our opinion every team should own the definition of a pageview in
> their
> product right and when in doubt analytics or research can be involved to
> provide feedback on lessons learned.
>
> For example: who is best qualified than IOS team to decide what
> constitutes
> a page in the IOS app?
>
> With that in mind I have created a ticket to define what constitutes a
> Search pageview:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120249
>
> Let me know what is a good discovery project to tag this ticket with so
> this
> ticket gets some visibility.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nuria
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 2 December 2015 at 15:38, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >>It's true that MediaWiki supports search based solely on the
?search
>> >> query
>> >> parameter. Regardless of whether title=Special:Search is specified.
>> >>This is mostly for legacy reasons as search predates the concept of
>> >> special
>> >> pages.
>> >>However, would it make sense to instead count these as page views for
>> >> 'Special:Search'?
>> >
>> > One thing worth clarifying is that analytics team doesn't own the
>> > pageview
>> > definition (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view), we
>> > implement it to the best of our ability. Deciding what constitutes a
>> > pageview for search falls on the search team as they are the ones
>> > that
>> > know
>> > their functionality best (substitute "search team" by "some
entity
>> > with
>> > knowledge of mediawiki's search abilities") According to
Timo's
>> > comment
>> > it
>> > seems that "?search" requests should be counted as true pageviews
but
>> > let us
>> > know otherwise via phab ticket or this list.
>> >
>>
>> Who does own it?
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Nuria
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
>> > <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Oliver Keyes, 02/12/2015 18:52:
>> >>>
>> >>> Via Brian Davis we find out the responsible patch is
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/commit/05e5da92553db…
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Context:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Page_view/Archive_1#Parameter…
>> >>
>> >> Nemo
>> >>
>> >>
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