Sure, but ownership does not mean "knows
everything" it means "Makes
sure it gets done". MediaWiki is owned by everyone, sure, but the
actual idea of what MediaWiki core is has a team. The MediaWiki core
team.
On 3 December 2015 at 13:07, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>So the pageview definition, one of our core
organisational KPIs, is owned
> simultaneously by everyone?
Sure, just like mediawiki codebase is collectively own.
Personally I do not see that as a problem and regardless I think it reflects
reality, analytics team -as I mentioned before- doesn't have the knowledge
or authority to "decide" what constitutes a search pageview without talking
to the team/devs/community memebers that actually know how search works.
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> So the pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is
> owned simultaneously by everyone?
>
> On 3 December 2015 at 12:54, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>Who does own it?
> > On our opinion every team should own the definition of a pageview in
> > their
> > product right and when in doubt analytics or research can be involved to
> > provide feedback on lessons learned.
> >
> > For example: who is best qualified than IOS team to decide what
> > constitutes
> > a page in the IOS app?
> >
> > With that in mind I have created a ticket to define what constitutes a
> > Search pageview:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120249
> >
> > Let me know what is a good discovery project to tag this ticket with so
> > this
> > ticket gets some visibility.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nuria
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2 December 2015 at 15:38, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >> >>It's true that MediaWiki supports search based solely on the
?search
> >> >> query
> >> >> parameter. Regardless of whether title=Special:Search is
specified.
> >> >>This is mostly for legacy reasons as search predates the concept of
> >> >> special
> >> >> pages.
> >> >>However, would it make sense to instead count these as page views
for
> >> >> 'Special:Search'?
> >> >
> >> > One thing worth clarifying is that analytics team doesn't own the
> >> > pageview
> >> > definition (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view), we
> >> > implement it to the best of our ability. Deciding what constitutes a
> >> > pageview for search falls on the search team as they are the ones
> >> > that
> >> > know
> >> > their functionality best (substitute "search team" by
"some entity
> >> > with
> >> > knowledge of mediawiki's search abilities") According to
Timo's
> >> > comment
> >> > it
> >> > seems that "?search" requests should be counted as true
pageviews but
> >> > let us
> >> > know otherwise via phab ticket or this list.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Who does own it?
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Nuria
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
> >> > <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Oliver Keyes, 02/12/2015 18:52:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Via Brian Davis we find out the responsible patch is
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/commit/05e5da92553db…
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Context:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Page_view/Archive_1#Parameter…
> >> >>
> >> >> Nemo
> >> >>
> >> >>
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