Hello All,
I have created a new labelling campaign, "Newcomer Session Quality" which describes observes the *sessions* (temporally related edits) of users on their *registration day* [1]. The idea is to detect potentially productive newcomers may be struggling with onboarding and might otherwise get bitten. I was wondering if there was a standard way to advertise for volunteers for a new campaign on-wiki? Would it be OK to leave talk-page invitations to users who have signed up for updates on other campaigns [2]? By the way, right now the campaign is just in enwiki for testing, but I have 6 other languages ready to go if enwiki labelling goes well.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Newcomer_session_quality [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Edit_quality
Make a great day, Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
Hi, I suggest that you ask questions about research Research-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
You could also ask at a relevant English Wikipedia village pump.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:38 PM Maximilian Klein max@notconfusing.com wrote:
Hello All,
I have created a new labelling campaign, "Newcomer Session Quality" which describes observes the *sessions* (temporally related edits) of users on their *registration day* [1]. The idea is to detect potentially productive newcomers may be struggling with onboarding and might otherwise get bitten. I was wondering if there was a standard way to advertise for volunteers for a new campaign on-wiki? Would it be OK to leave talk-page invitations to users who have signed up for updates on other campaigns [2]? By the way, right now the campaign is just in enwiki for testing, but I have 6 other languages ready to go if enwiki labelling goes well.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Newcomer_session_quality [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Edit_quality
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There has been research that encourages users to participate in studies by posting on their user page [1]. But it might be worth to ask about experiences on Research-l. Let me know how it goes, I would be very interested in the results, as I am looking into working on a similar approach!
Best, Lucie
[1] The Wikipedia Adventure: Field Evaluation of an Interactive Tutorial for New Users https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2998307
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 14:40, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I suggest that you ask questions about research Research-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
You could also ask at a relevant English Wikipedia village pump.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:38 PM Maximilian Klein max@notconfusing.com wrote:
Hello All,
I have created a new labelling campaign, "Newcomer Session Quality" which describes observes the *sessions* (temporally related edits) of users on their *registration day* [1]. The idea is to detect potentially productive newcomers may be struggling with onboarding and might otherwise get bitten. I was wondering if there was a standard way to advertise for volunteers for a new campaign on-wiki? Would it be OK to leave talk-page invitations to users who have signed up for updates on other campaigns [2]? By the way, right now the campaign is just in enwiki for testing, but I have 6 other languages ready to go if enwiki labelling goes well.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Newcomer_session_quality [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Edit_quality
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Lucie: well, that wasn't primarily a study at the time. It was an actual attempt to teach new users things. But point taken :)
More generally: I think we ('we' = people who run, or want to run, wikilabelling campaigns) should invest in improving the outreach and onboarding experience for WikiLabels. We probably need to make some updates to the WikiLabels portal on wiki, so that it's easier for people who have never participated in or organized a wikilabels campaign to get up to speed.
For example, Miriam put together a basic information page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Identification_of_Unsourced_Statements/Labeling_Pilot and an (optional) signup page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Identification_of_Unsourced_Statements/Labeling_Pilot/Sign_Up for our last unsourced statements campaign. The page wasn't fancy, it just explained what the campaign was for, what to expect as a labeler, and how to participate. We had a hard time getting a sufficient number of people to label in our most recent campaign, and I think that's going to continue to be a problem as more people use the tool--how do we incentivize people to label, and make it as easy as possible for them?
My proposal is:
1. to have a landing page that we can link people who might participate in campaigns too (not taking anything away from the current portal, just creating an alternate entry point that's designed specifically for end-users) 2. create a mechanism for posting campaign-specific subpages in the 'wikilabels' namespace, so that we can track campaigns transparently, labelers can have a standard location of providing feedback (a la "instructions are not clear", or "interface is broken", AND so individual campaign organizers can have a canonical URL for their campaign documentation, a la Meta:Wiki_labels/My_great_campaign. Looks like Aaron et al. tried to do this on Enwik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Campaignsi in the early days, but I think everyone should be responsible for their own documentation.
Does this sound reasonable? Anyone want to work on it with me? Scoring platform is unlikely to have the bandwidth to do this for us. And we're going to be relying on this infrastructure more and more.
- J
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:01 AM Lucie Kaffee lucie.kaffee@gmail.com wrote:
There has been research that encourages users to participate in studies by posting on their user page [1]. But it might be worth to ask about experiences on Research-l. Let me know how it goes, I would be very interested in the results, as I am looking into working on a similar approach!
Best, Lucie
[1] The Wikipedia Adventure: Field Evaluation of an Interactive Tutorial for New Users https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2998307
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 14:40, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I suggest that you ask questions about research Research-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
You could also ask at a relevant English Wikipedia village pump.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:38 PM Maximilian Klein max@notconfusing.com wrote:
Hello All,
I have created a new labelling campaign, "Newcomer Session Quality" which describes observes the *sessions* (temporally related edits) of users on their *registration day* [1]. The idea is to detect potentially productive newcomers may be struggling with onboarding and might otherwise get bitten. I was wondering if there was a standard way to advertise for volunteers for a new campaign on-wiki? Would it be OK to leave talk-page invitations to users who have signed up for updates on other campaigns [2]? By the way, right now the campaign is just in enwiki for testing, but I have 6 other languages ready to go if enwiki labelling goes well.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Newcomer_session_quality [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Edit_quality
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