Isaac, There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit committee on that day. David On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac" <kips8505izo(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

Oscar, Is this the mailing list for the board? Or should the board meetup be announced on this list? I think you are trying to be a pain unnecessarily. David. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- ------------- David Mugo, Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya http://mugo.me Twitter: @raidarmax _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

Oscar, As the vice chair of the board, is your work to question every little thing people do? There is a proper way to handle issues. That does not mean avoiding them but it also does not mean confrontation. You are part of the board, meaning you are on the board's mailing list, why did you choose this as the forum for your questions? Display leadership not the autocracy you exhibited over the financial issues with Steve. David. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- ------------- David Mugo, Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya http://mugo.me Twitter: @raidarmax _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

David, Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to meet to discuss the financial issues and before we can get back to the members with a clear direction? On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Regards, Limoke Oscar, Dream.Believe.Become....a world of endless oportunities _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

Isaac, If it were you asking that question, I would have no issue. Oscar is part of the board and there is a mailing list for the board. And yes, that was the plan, just not in the way Oscar wants to bring it. Just so you know, 2 of the board members might not be present for the meetup but the plan is to have a board meeting before then so the board can report on that. David. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kosgei Isaac <kips8505izo(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: -- ------------- David Mugo, Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya http://mugo.me Twitter: @raidarmax _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

Hi David, That is a good way. If that is the case (Board meeting before 8th) Then I will attend. Just so you know, it was not Oscar who disrupted the last meetup and I do not question his concerns because I beleive they are genuine. Secondly, if Oscar is aware that there is going to be a board meeting, then I feel in my opinion that it was unwise for him to have raised that question here and he already knows. That said, I know we have issues but let us handle this polepole. On Aug 28, 2012 8:52 AM, "David Mugo" <raidarmax(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Isaac, > > If it were you asking that question, I would have no issue. Oscar is part > of the board and there is a mailing list for the board. And yes, that was > the plan, just not in the way Oscar wants to bring it. Just so you know, 2 > of the board members might not be present for the meetup but the plan is to > have a board meeting before then so the board can report on that. > > David. > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Kosgei Isaac <kips8505izo(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: > >> David, >> Oscar is right, unless you had agreed to have a board meeting before 8th >> and he is not informed otherwise what he is asking is a genuine question >> and I beleive like any other person he has a right to ask. >> Lets not run away from the real issue >> On Aug 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Limoke Oscar" <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Just that? From my understanding, we as a board are indeed supposed to >>> meet to discuss the financial issues and before we can get back to the >>> members with a clear direction? >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: >>> >>>> Isaac, >>>> >>>> There is no finance issues to be sorted, we are going to form an audit >>>> committee on that day. >>>> >>>> David >>>> On Aug 28, 2012 5:04 AM, "Kosgei Isaac" <kips8505izo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ann, >>>>> I suggest the board meet and sort the finance issue. >>>>> The last meetup was too chaotic and I am afraid I am no longer going >>>>> to attend any meetup unless all the cornerns we raised regarding finances >>>>> are addressed by the board. >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> Isaac >>>>> On Aug 27, 2012 7:43 PM, "Ann Njeri" <ann.njeri(a)wikimedia.or.ke> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all? >>>>>> We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be >>>>>> confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances >>>>>> and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad >>>>>> provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the >>>>>> list of members attending, >>>>>> >>>>>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ann >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>>>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Limoke Oscar, >>> Dream.Believe.Become....a world of endless oportunities >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> > > > -- > ------------- > David Mugo, > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya > http://mugo.me > Twitter: @raidarmax > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >

I am done arguing with you, simply learn to handle things without being a Khalwale on these issues.

its in the interest of wmke for the board to bond and work together in harmony, we condemn the name calling bit , For the deputy chair to talk in the manner that he did points out to the frustration and lack of communication @ the board level ,for the audit committee to opt out like it did points out to the same, ,The chair rather that retorting should reach out to his colleagues and set out the communication channels to avert such,Now thats leadership. i am of the opinion that the board meets b4 8th and do the in house agree on issues we raised then collectively respond to chapter members on 8th ,thats just but a suggestion , Guys lets avoid the sideshows coz @ the end the day ,this issues must be addressed . Bruce. _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

** ** ** Dear all,**** ** ** I very much hope that this isn’t the last word. I continue to trust in the maturity of all elected WMKE leaders, i.e. in your ability to resolve any problems with respect and good judgment.**** ** ** Further, I am deeply saddened by the trend of resigning when the going gets tough. That is not what I expect from Wikimedia members who are part of a volunteer organisation aiming for the common educational good of all humankind. Please return to our responsibility of making our world a better place, and stop this disintegration of our chapter. Thanks.**** ** ** Waswahili wanavyosema: Umoja ni nguvu!

** ** Hi all,**** ** ** I’ve just had a look at the anticipated attendees’ list – I’m only one of four registered to attend. How is our chapter going to move forward if we don’t even attend this meeting?! Friends, this will be a very important meeting. Please consider attending. Thanks.**** ** ** Yours for making the sum of human knowledge available to everyone on our planet,**** BT**** ** ** ------------------------------ *From:* Ann Njeri [mailto:ann.njeri@wikimedia.or.ke] *Sent:* 27 August 2012 19:44 *To:* The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. *Subject:* [Wikimedia ****Kenya****] Meetup on 8th September**** ** ** Hi all? We shall be having a meetup on 8th September at Ihub ( to be confirmed) at 10pm. Among the agendas to be discussed will be the finances and the audit committee. Feel free to add to the agendas on the ether pad provided below. Please confirm your attendance by adding yourself to the list of members attending, http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wkmemeetingon8thseptember regards, Ann **** _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake