We are going in as wikipedia for schools which is part of initiatives for students in institutions of higher learning. Apart from financial the most tricky part during the open day is that we had on banners, on swags or anything we had to prepare our own leaflets the best is we did manage to bring the minister to our stand. On 2/22/11, Limoke Oscar &lt;oslimoke(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Kosgei, > Please change your mailing options from Digest to Digest off,that way you > will ba able to follow our thread as it happens. > I guess by support you mean financial and such.We got banners that we used > in the Wikipedia for schools launch.We also hope to be printing a few Wiki > swags for use in the Pilot.However we had made the budget for the Pilot and > Launch earlier and I don't think or don't Know if Abbas will be in a > position to squeeze out a few coins to this good course.Its tricky because > we already operating on a strict budget. > How is the Exhibition organized?are you guys going as the School(Egerton) or > specifically Wikipedia?How long?and how had you organized or envisioned the > whole thing? > Share out more so that we can see how we could chip in. > thanks, > Best.,.. > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Isaac K. Kosgei > &lt;kips8505izo(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: > >> We have a user manual we prepared for our use during the open day. >> Kiay can post it for you. Guys what do you say about our trip to >> kakamega exhibitions? Please get to us >> >> On 2/22/11, wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> &lt;wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: >> > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to >> > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot (Alex Wafula) >> > 2. Re: SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot (Oliver Stegen) >> > 3. Re: SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot (Alex Wafula) >> > 4. Re: SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot (Limoke Oscar) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:37:28 -0800 (PST) >> > From: Alex Wafula &lt;xelawafs(a)yahoo.com&gt; >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > Message-ID: &lt;140385.49089.qm(a)web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com&gt; >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > Thanks for the assist with the user manual Sam. I'll also be looking for >> > already existing ones from the Openzim project as well as Kiwix. >> > >> > Ihub is free Saturday morning and I'll be indicating a maximum of 15 >> people >> > in attendance. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alex. >> > >> > On Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 1:10 AM PST Limoke Oscar wrote: >> > >> >>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, SAMSON MAOSA &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am embarking on it now. Pleasure >> >> >> >> Glad you helping....its all ours. :P :P >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Limoke Oscar &lt;oslimoke(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM, SAMSON MAOSA >> >>>> &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> If it were possible I could also attend the Saturday meeting but I >> >>>>> am >> >>>>> attached a bit far from Nairobi. All I can wish you is good luck in >> >>>>> your >> >>>>> preparations and the pilot. >> >>>>> Alex, if you need any help in preparing the Kiwix user manual I am >> >>>>> here. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Sam,We would appreciate your help so much.You could go ahead >> >>>> and prepare the same as I believe all the other Teams would use the >> same >> >>>> Manual too.So its our Asset as a Team so go ahead and send the draft >> >>>> when >> >>>> you are done. Thanks for your help. >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Limoke Oscar >> >>>>> &lt;oslimoke(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I am preparing the kakamega budget guys and would appreciate your >> >>>>>> input >> >>>>>> especially from the cc'd Kakamega volunteers.Where is Bakari? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Bakari if you get this you need to confirm your availability for >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> meetup and pilot.You have been too quite and am not sure you still >> are >> >>>>>> in >> >>>>>> for the Pilot. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sarah and Lilian,please come along with your laptops,Alex and I >> >>>>>> only >> >>>>>> got Net-books not good enough for the Power Point presentation and >> >>>>>> writing >> >>>>>> the DVD's. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Abbas,you come along with the DVD's-we could write by the laptops >> >>>>>> on >> >>>>>> our >> >>>>>> own.Also lets have all the necessary Fixed items like >> >>>>>> Projectors,banners,Wiki swags as Alex had requested. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Alex,Could you please prepare a short User Manual for the Kiwix and >> >>>>>> Wikipedia for Schools? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> And to all Kakamega volunteers,we will be writing Wikipedia >> articles >> >>>>>> of >> >>>>>> all the schools we visit and any interesting thing.So we could also >> >>>>>> use >> >>>>>> the Saturday meetup to take us through Wikipedia Editing and >> >>>>>> authoring.Come >> >>>>>> prepared on some of the key things you would like us to write about >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> schools. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> See you then and awaiting your budget suggestions...... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Abbas Mahmoud >> >>>>>> &lt;abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Could Alex please book iHub or any other place for us for this >> >>>>>>> meetup? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>> Feel free to contact me: >> >>>>>>> Abbas Mahmood >> >>>>>>> Tel: +254722215101 >> >>>>>>> Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com >> >>>>>>> Skype: abbasjnr >> >>>>>>> Wikimedia Kenya Member >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> "*Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is >> given >> >>>>>>> free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our >> >>>>>>> commitment." >> >>>>>>> * >> >>>>>>> ** >> >>>>>>> Please donate: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate/Now/en >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:04:16 +0300 >> >>>>>>> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com >> >>>>>>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>>>> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> HEY EVERYONE, >> >>>>>>> AS YOU ARE AWARE,THE KAKAMEGA PILOT WILL BE HAPPENING AS FROM >> >>>>>>> 28TH-6TH >> >>>>>>> MARCH.AS SUCH,I WOULD LIKE TO URGE ALL THE KAKAMEGA VOLUNTEERS NOT >> TO >> >>>>>>> MISS THE SCHEDULED SATURDAY MEETUP.WE WILL USE THAT TO FAMILIARIZE >> >>>>>>> WITH EACH >> >>>>>>> OTHER,ASSIGN DUTIES TO EACH AND PREPARE THE LOGISTICS FOR THE >> >>>>>>> SAME. PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS THREAD IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE >> >>>>>>> KAKAMEGA VOLUNTEERS TO CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATION >> >>>>>>> IN >> >>>>>>> THE >> >>>>>>> PILOT TOO. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> P/S:EXCUSE MY SHOUTING(CAPS),MY CAPS-LOCK IS FAULTY...:P :P >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> SEE US THEN >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Limoke Oscar, >> >>>>>>> Wikimedian in Kenya <http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>, >> >>>>>>> Freelance Academic Writer and Translator, >> >>>>>>> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student, >> >>>>>>> Jomo Kenyatta University. <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke> >> >>>>>>> Cell:+254 717 845 316 >> >>>>>>> Skype:oslimoke >> >>>>>>> Twitter:@oslimoke <http://www.twitter.com/oslimoke> >> >>>>>>> PayPal:Limoke >> >>>>>>> Oscar< >> https://www.paypal.com/ke/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_account&nav=0.0> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE >> >>>>>>> mailing >> >>>>>>> list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >> >>>>>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Limoke Oscar, >> >>>>>> Wikimedian in Kenya <http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>, >> >>>>>> Freelance Academic Writer and Translator, >> >>>>>> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student, >> >>>>>> Jomo Kenyatta University. <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke> >> >>>>>> Cell:+254 717 845 316 >> >>>>>> Skype:oslimoke >> >>>>>> Twitter:@oslimoke <http://www.twitter.com/oslimoke> >> >>>>>> PayPal:Limoke >> >>>>>> Oscar<https://www.paypal.com/ke/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_account&nav=0.0 >> > >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >> >>>>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> __________________________________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> Samson Arosi Maosa, >> >>>>> Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, >> >>>>> Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering >> >>>>> +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five >> >>>>> *"In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing >> >>>>> it >> >>>>> in >> >>>>> a different (better) way?"* >> >>>>> Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia >> >>>>> Kenya<http://www.wikimedia.or.ke> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >> >>>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Limoke Oscar, >> >>>> Wikimedian in Kenya <http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>, >> >>>> Freelance Academic Writer and Translator, >> >>>> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student, >> >>>> Jomo Kenyatta University. <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke> >> >>>> Cell:+254 717 845 316 >> >>>> Skype:oslimoke >> >>>> Twitter:@oslimoke <http://www.twitter.com/oslimoke> >> >>>> PayPal:Limoke >> >>>> Oscar<https://www.paypal.com/ke/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_account&nav=0.0&… >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >> >>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________________________________________________________ >> >>> Samson Arosi Maosa, >> >>> Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, >> >>> Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering >> >>> +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five >> >>> *"In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it >> in >> >>> a >> >>> different (better) way?"* >> >>> Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia >> >>> Kenya<http://www.wikimedia.or.ke> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >> >>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Limoke Oscar, >> >>Wikimedian in Kenya <http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>, >> >>Freelance Academic Writer and Translator, >> >>GeoInformatics and GIScience Student, >> >>Jomo Kenyatta University. <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke> >> >>Cell:+254 717 845 316 >> >>Skype:oslimoke >> >>Twitter:@oslimoke <http://www.twitter.com/oslimoke> >> >>PayPal:Limoke >> >> Oscar<https://www.paypal.com/ke/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_account&nav=0.0&… >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:33:53 +0300 >> > From: "Oliver Stegen" &lt;oliver_stegen(a)sil.org&gt; >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> > To: "'The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.'" >> > &lt;wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >> > Message-ID: <692BC12B5C804B798CB8B829E6CA0E1B@Oliver> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >> > I'd be free Sat morn but wouldn't want to take one of the 15 spaces if >> > you're tight. While I'm not on the Kakamega pilot, I'd like to see your >> prep >> > so I'll know what to expect for the Nairobi school visit. Let me know in >> all >> > honesty :) >> > Wasalaam, >> > Oliver (aka BT) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Alex >> Wafula >> > Sent: 22 February 2011 12:37 >> > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> > >> > Thanks for the assist with the user manual Sam. I'll also be looking for >> > already existing ones from the Openzim project as well as Kiwix. >> > >> > Ihub is free Saturday morning and I'll be indicating a maximum of 15 >> people >> > in attendance. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alex. >> > >> > On Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 1:10 AM PST Limoke Oscar wrote: >> > >> >>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, SAMSON MAOSA &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt; >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am embarking on it now. Pleasure >> >> >> >> Glad you helping....its all ours. :P :P >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Limoke Oscar &lt;oslimoke(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM, SAMSON MAOSA >> > &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> If it were possible I could also attend the Saturday meeting but I >> >>>>> am >> >>>>> attached a bit far from Nairobi. All I can wish you is good luck in >> > your >> >>>>> preparations and the pilot. >> >>>>> Alex, if you need any help in preparing the Kiwix user manual I am >> > here. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Sam,We would appreciate your help so much.You could go ahead >> >>>> and prepare the same as I believe all the other Teams would use the >> same >> >>>> Manual too.So its our Asset as a Team so go ahead and send the draft >> > when >> >>>> you are done. Thanks for your help. >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Limoke Oscar >> > &lt;oslimoke(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I am preparing the kakamega budget guys and would appreciate your >> > input >> >>>>>> especially from the cc'd Kakamega volunteers.Where is Bakari? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Bakari if you get this you need to confirm your availability for >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> meetup and pilot.You have been too quite and am not sure you still >> are >> > in >> >>>>>> for the Pilot. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sarah and Lilian,please come along with your laptops,Alex and I >> >>>>>> only >> >>>>>> got Net-books not good enough for the Power Point presentation and >> > writing >> >>>>>> the DVD's. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Abbas,you come along with the DVD's-we could write by the laptops >> >>>>>> on >> > our >> >>>>>> own.Also lets have all the necessary Fixed items like >> >>>>>> Projectors,banners,Wiki swags as Alex had requested. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Alex,Could you please prepare a short User Manual for the Kiwix and >> >>>>>> Wikipedia for Schools? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> And to all Kakamega volunteers,we will be writing Wikipedia >> articles >> > of >> >>>>>> all the schools we visit and any interesting thing.So we could also >> > use >> >>>>>> the Saturday meetup to take us through Wikipedia Editing and >> > authoring.Come >> >>>>>> prepared on some of the key things you would like us to write about >> > the >> >>>>>> schools. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> See you then and awaiting your budget suggestions...... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Abbas Mahmoud >> > &lt;abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Could Alex please book iHub or any other place for us for this >> > meetup? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>> Feel free to contact me: >> >>>>>>> Abbas Mahmood >> >>>>>>> Tel: +254722215101 >> >>>>>>> Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com >> >>>>>>> Skype: abbasjnr >> >>>>>>> Wikimedia Kenya Member >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> "*Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is >> given >> >>>>>>> free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our >> > commitment." >> >>>>>>> * >> >>>>>>> ** >> >>>>>>> Please donate: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate/Now/en >> >>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:52:14 -0800 (PST) >> > From: Alex Wafula &lt;xelawafs(a)yahoo.com&gt; >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> > To: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org, "The discussion list for the upcoming >> > Wikimedia Kenya chapter." &lt;wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >> > Message-ID: &lt;347994.23957.qm(a)web45113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com&gt; >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >> > Hey Oliver, >> > >> > Great to here from you. The guys going for the Kakamega pilot are 6 so >> the >> > extra >> > 9 slots are for anyone else who wishes to come, so you are definitely >> > welcomed. >> > Hope to see you then. >> > >> > cheers, >> > Alex >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Oliver Stegen &lt;oliver_stegen(a)sil.org&gt; >> > To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. >> > &lt;wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >> > Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:33:53 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> > >> > I'd be free Sat morn but wouldn't want to take one of the 15 spaces if >> > you're tight. While I'm not on the Kakamega pilot, I'd like to see your >> prep >> > so I'll know what to expect for the Nairobi school visit. Let me know in >> all >> > honesty :) >> > Wasalaam, >> > Oliver (aka BT) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Alex >> Wafula >> > Sent: 22 February 2011 12:37 >> > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY MEETUP and Kakamega Pilot >> > >> > Thanks for the assist with the user manual Sam. I'll also be looking for >> > already existing ones from the Openzim project as well as Kiwix. >> > >> > Ihub is free Saturday morning and I'll be indicating a maximum of 15 >> people >> > in attendance. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alex. >> > >> > On Tue Feb 22nd, 2011 1:10 AM PST Limoke Oscar wrote: >> > >> >>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, SAMSON MAOSA &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt; >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am embarking on it now. Pleasure >> >> >> >> Glad you helping....its all ours. :P :P >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Limoke Oscar &lt;oslimoke(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM, SAMSON MAOSA >> > &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> If it were possible I could also attend the Saturday meeting but I >> >>>>> am >> >>>>> attached a bit far from Nairobi. All I can wish you is good luck in >> > your >> >>>>> preparations and the pilot. >> >>>>> Alex, if you need any help in preparing the Kiwix user manual I am >> > here. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Sam,We would appreciate your help so much.You could go ahead >> >>>> and prepare the same as I believe all the other Teams would use the >> same >> >>>> Manual too.So its our Asset as a Team so go ahead and send the draft >> > when >> >>>> you are done. Thanks for your help. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WikimediaKE mailing list >> > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >