Echo can be a good alternative. Imagine a new notification for every user, a "global notice" (not a talk page message) This can be sent to registered users, with its own icon, a notification message with text simillar to what it would be included in a banner, and linking to the relevant page (instead of own talk page etc). So, every user will get it only once, but he can go back to it by clicking the notifications icon.
mockup: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Echo-centralnotice.png
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2013/10/29 Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org
Hi Romaine,
Thanks for bringing this up.
On the one hand, the WMF often gets accused of failing to communicate properly and consistently with the Wikimedia community. On the other hand, when consistent communication is attempted though things like these notices, some people can get frustrated and tune out.
How would you suggest we tackle this problem? Simply not using these notices any more would lead to reducing our communication with the community, so without a better solution, we can't really disable the notices.
Thanks, Dan
On 29 October 2013 15:49, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:
On the Dutch Wikipedia users have indicated that they perceive the number of Global Notices too much and the more that happens the more users will start to add code to their preferences to fully block every notice as they are so tired of them.
The current load of negative feedback about the banners is currently coming up after the especially the FDC banners
Every week a new notice is considered too much.
I already noticed earlier that there is also some kind of banner blindness for many users: they get a banner on pages but do not look at them any more just as it are adds.
This time several users got a notice in English what was perceived disturbing.
Also they experience getting banners as not interesting for Wikipedia.
As bonus I personally and other users have experienced that clicking away a banner made the banner appear again within the hour visiting other pages. I had that at least four times on a project, on several projects. Re-appeasring after being clicked away is useless and disturbing.
Also it is annoying that I need to click the same banners away on each project I visit, many users visit Wikipedia, but also work on Commons, Wikidata, etc.
I think the the CentralNotice should be redesigned or the CentralNotice will loose it effectiveness. Something is really going wrong.
Romaine
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