[RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons

[Goran Milovanovic]

Hi,

I don't feel comfortable discussing a research project without being able
to take a close look at the study itself.

Mayo, could you please provide an access to your questionnaires/experiments
- whatever methodology was used - only after I take a look at the study
itself I will be able to join the discussion.

Thank you.

Best,
Goran



On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dario Taraborelli <
dtaraborelli at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Here's a link for a doodle poll, please let me know your availability as
> soon as possible so we can finalize a date for next week.
> I am planning to close this poll by *Saturday 9am PST*.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/vb5w8ntrftmyp4w3
>
> Thanks
> Dario
>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Fuster, Mayo wrote:
>
> I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural he
> suggests, Mayo
>
>
> «·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
> «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·»
> «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»
>
> Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info
>
> Fellow Berkman center for Internet and Society. Harvard University.
> Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies.
> Autonomous University of Barcelona.
> Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of
> Catalonia (UOC).
> Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation
> Ph.D European University Institute
> Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of
> California, Berkeley.
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> From: rcom-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org [
> rcom-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dario Taraborelli [
> dtaraborelli at wikimedia.org]
> Sent: 12 December 2011 21:08
> To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list
> Subject: Re: [RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons
>
> My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this
> would be confusing for the community:
>
> 1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed on the
> list
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html
>
> 2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc
>
> (1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call (date/time
> still tbc) with the researchers and some community members, if any of you
> is willing to help with this please let me know off-list and I'll add you
> to the list of attendees.  I don't feel there's a need to host an actual
> RCom meeting to review the proposed changes (which seem fairly
> uncontroversial and will be discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this
> opportunity to discuss (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman
> incident for the future.
>
> Dario
>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van Liere
>
> <dvanliere at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear WSC,
>
>
> I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is
>
> about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on
>
> central
>
> notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the
>
> heart
>
> of the controversy. It is not about the legitimacy of the research
>
> institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the
>
> actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how
>
> to
>
> to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia
>
> research
>
> itself.
>
>
>
> I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this
>
> is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been
>
> summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Harvard.2FScience_Po_Adverts
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices
>
>
> as well as on the Meta proposal page
>
>
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_Behavior
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Yaroslav
>
>
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