Hi,<div><br></div><div>I don't feel comfortable discussing a research project without being able to take a close look at the study itself.</div><div><br></div><div>Mayo, could you please provide an access to your questionnaires/experiments - whatever methodology was used - only after I take a look at the study itself I will be able to join the discussion.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thank you.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Goran</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dario Taraborelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org">dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Here's a link for a doodle poll, please let me know your availability as soon as possible so we can finalize a date for next week.</div>
<div>I am planning to close this poll by <b>Saturday 9am PST</b>.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.doodle.com/vb5w8ntrftmyp4w3" target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/vb5w8ntrftmyp4w3</a></div><div><br></div><div>
Thanks</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Dario</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div>On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Fuster, Mayo wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural he suggests, Mayo<br>
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Sent: 12 December 2011 21:08<br>To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list<br>Subject: Re: [RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons<br><br>My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this would be confusing for the community:<br>
<br>1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed on the list<br><a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html" target="_blank">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html</a><br>
<br>2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc<br><br>(1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call (date/time still tbc) with the researchers and some community members, if any of you is willing to help with this please let me know off-list and I'll add you to the list of attendees. I don't feel there's a need to host an actual RCom meeting to review the proposed changes (which seem fairly uncontroversial and will be discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this opportunity to discuss (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman incident for the future.<br>
<br>Dario<br><br>On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van Liere<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:dvanliere@gmail.com" target="_blank">dvanliere@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear WSC,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">central<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
heart<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of the controversy. It is not about the legitimacy of the research<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">research<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">itself.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this<br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Harvard.2FScience_Po_Adverts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Harvard.2FScience_Po_Adverts</a><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices</a><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">as well as on the Meta proposal page<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_Behavior" target="_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_Behavior</a><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Yaroslav<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br>
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