[RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons

Tue Dec 13 17:24:37 UTC 2011

Dario,

Is this just for those interested in the discussion about the study? Not 
the entire RCom?
or you still would like to have all of RCom, just not call this an 
official RCom mtg since there will be outsiders (those against the survey?)

Cheryl
*sorry, crazy end of the semester, working on catching up.

On 12/12/11 4:10 PM, Dario Taraborelli wrote:
> Here's a link for a doodle poll, please let me know your availability 
> as soon as possible so we can finalize a date for next week.
> I am planning to close this poll by *Saturday 9am PST*.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/vb5w8ntrftmyp4w3
>
> Thanks
> Dario
>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Fuster, Mayo wrote:
>
>> I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural 
>> he suggests, Mayo
>>
>>
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>> [rcom-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dario Taraborelli 
>> [dtaraborelli at wikimedia.org]
>> Sent: 12 December 2011 21:08
>> To: The Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [RCom-l] The tragedy of the Commons
>>
>> My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this 
>> would be confusing for the community:
>>
>> 1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed 
>> on the list
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html
>>
>> 2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc
>>
>> (1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call 
>> (date/time still tbc) with the researchers and some community 
>> members, if any of you is willing to help with this please let me 
>> know off-list and I'll add you to the list of attendees.  I don't 
>> feel there's a need to host an actual RCom meeting to review the 
>> proposed changes (which seem fairly uncontroversial and will be 
>> discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this opportunity to discuss 
>> (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman incident for the future.
>>
>> Dario
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van Liere
>>> <dvanliere at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear WSC,
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman 
>>>> controversy is
>>>> about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on
>>> central
>>>> notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the
>>> heart
>>>> of the controversy. It is not about the legitimacy of the research
>>>> institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the
>>>> actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how
>>> to
>>>> to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia
>>> research
>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this
>>> is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been
>>> summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Harvard.2FScience_Po_Adverts
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices
>>>
>>> as well as on the Meta proposal page
>>>
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_Behavior
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Yaroslav
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