I find very useful Dario's distinction and agree with the procedural he suggests, Mayo
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My feeling is that we shouldn't be conflating the two issues, as this would be confusing for the community:
1) review of Berkman banner and implementation of changes discussed on the list http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-December/070765.html
2) discussion of future approach towards SR, Omnibus survey etc
(1) needs to take place this week, I have a conference call (date/time still tbc) with the researchers and some community members, if any of you is willing to help with this please let me know off-list and I'll add you to the list of attendees. I don't feel there's a need to host an actual RCom meeting to review the proposed changes (which seem fairly uncontroversial and will be discussed on wiki). I would rather keep this opportunity to discuss (2) and the broader implications of the Berkman incident for the future.
Dario
On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:50:24 -0500, Diederik van Liere dvanliere@gmail.com wrote:
Dear WSC,
I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is about. My understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on
central
notice during the fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the
heart
of the controversy. It is not about the legitimacy of the research institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research methodology, or the actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how
to
to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia
research
itself.
I think right now it is mostly about the lack of communication, and this is what we need to discuss as well. The main objections have been summarized at two pages on English Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Central_Notices
as well as on the Meta proposal page
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_...
Cheers Yaroslav
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