The whole human-vs-extracted descriptions quality
question could be
fairly easy to test I think:
- Pick, some number of articles at random.
- Run them through a description extraction script.
- Have a human describe the same articles with, say, the app interface I
demo'ed.
If nothing else this exercise could perhaps make what's thus far been a
wildly abstract discussion more concrete.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Monte Hurd <mhurd(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
If having the most elegant description extraction
mechanism was the
goal I would totally agree ;)
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Dmitry Brant <dbrant(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> IMO, allowing the user to edit the description is a missed opportunity
> to make the user edit the actual *data*, such that the description is
> generated correctly.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Monte Hurd <mhurd(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> IMO, if the goal is quality, then human curated descriptions are
>> superior until such time as the auto-generation script passes the Turing
>> test ;)
>>
>> I see these empty descriptions as an amazing opportunity to give
>> *everyone* an easy new way to edit. I whipped an app editing interface up
>> at the Lyon hackathon:
>> bluetooth720 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VblyGhf_c8>
>>
>> I used it to add a couple hundred descriptions in a single day just
>> by hitting "random" then adding descriptions for articles which
didn't have
>> them.
>>
>> I'd love to try a limited test of this in production to get a sense
>> for how effective human curation can be if the interface is easy to use...
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Jan Ainali <jan.ainali(a)wikimedia.se>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice one!
>>>
>>> Does not appear to work on svwiki though. Does it have something to
>>> do with that the wiki in question does not display that tagline?
>>>
>>>
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>>> 2015-08-18 17:23 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske <
>>> magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>gt;:
>>>
>>>> Show automatic description underneath "From Wikipedia...":
>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/autodesc.js
>>>>
>>>> To use, add:
>>>> importScript ( 'User:Magnus_Manske/autodesc.js' ) ;
>>>> to your common.js
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:47 AM Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be even better if this (short: 3 field max)
>>>>> pipe-separated list was available as a gadget to wikidatans on
Wikipedia
>>>>> (like me). I can't see if a page I am on has an "instance
of" (though it
>>>>> should) and I can see the description thanks to another gadget (sorry
no
>>>>> idea which one that is). Often I will update empty descriptions, but
if I
>>>>> was served basic fields (so for a painting, the creator field), I
would
>>>>> click through to update that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <
>>>>> nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jane Darnell, 15/08/2015 08:53:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes but even if the descriptions were just the contents of
fields
>>>>>>> separated by a pipe it would be better than nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1, item descriptions are mostly useless in my experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for "get into production on Wikipedia" I don't
know what it
>>>>>> means, I certainly don't like 1) mobile-specific features, 2)
overriding
>>>>>> existing manually curated content; but it's good to 3) fill
gaps. Mobile
>>>>>> folks often do (1) and (2), if they *instead* did (3) I'd be
very happy. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nemo
>>>>>>
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