Hello there,
I code in PHP, Javascript and Python and have a specific 'want', which is to improve the xtools gadget https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hedonil/XTools browser plugin-like thing (which I think will involve the file xtools/api.php) that currently shows revisions/authors etc. so it can show more data on hover dropdown (like top 10 authors). I've been using this gadget for a year, and it still works but I notice that the full page statistics and pageviews links no longer seem to work.
I don't know much about the current state of these tools, but I may also be up for making some other contributions if needed, depending on their complexity.
I've had a brief look over the mailing list archives and it looks like there is some dissatisfaction with the old code and a rewrite is in progress? (I see the xtools-rebirth repo on github). If someone could give me a brief overview of what's happening with xtools and where things are going that would be great, and an idea of how I can contribute my idea.
I don't think a rewrite is going to happen. If there's anything that needs attention, it's the articleinfo tool, but we do have working alternatives for that (WikiHistory, Sigma's tool, WikiChecker, etc). Feel free to take a stab at it if you're up for it. You can get some technical info on how far people have gotten at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:XTools
All the other tools are more or less stable, so long as the cronjob continue to gives it an occasional restart.
Thanks
On 24 September 2015 at 19:29, John Montegra mabandalone@gmail.com wrote:
Hello there,
I code in PHP, Javascript and Python and have a specific 'want', which is to improve the xtools gadget https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hedonil/XTools browser plugin-like thing (which I think will involve the file xtools/api.php) that currently shows revisions/authors etc. so it can show more data on hover dropdown (like top 10 authors). I've been using this gadget for a year, and it still works but I notice that the full page statistics and pageviews links no longer seem to work.
I don't know much about the current state of these tools, but I may also be up for making some other contributions if needed, depending on their complexity.
I've had a brief look over the mailing list archives and it looks like there is some dissatisfaction with the old code and a rewrite is in progress? (I see the xtools-rebirth repo on github). If someone could give me a brief overview of what's happening with xtools and where things are going that would be great, and an idea of how I can contribute my idea.
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Ok thanks, I'll start having a look into the code.
On 25/09/15 00:33, MusikAnimal wrote:
I don't think a rewrite is going to happen. If there's anything that needs attention, it's the articleinfo tool, but we do have working alternatives for that (WikiHistory, Sigma's tool, WikiChecker, etc). Feel free to take a stab at it if you're up for it. You can get some technical info on how far people have gotten at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:XTools
All the other tools are more or less stable, so long as the cronjob continue to gives it an occasional restart.
Thanks
On 24 September 2015 at 19:29, John Montegra <mabandalone@gmail.com mailto:mabandalone@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello there, I code in PHP, Javascript and Python and have a specific 'want', which is to improve the xtools gadget <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hedonil/XTools> browser plugin-like thing (which I think will involve the file xtools/api.php) that currently shows revisions/authors etc. so it can show more data on hover dropdown (like top 10 authors). I've been using this gadget for a year, and it still works but I notice that the full page statistics and pageviews links no longer seem to work. I don't know much about the current state of these tools, but I may also be up for making some other contributions if needed, depending on their complexity. I've had a brief look over the mailing list archives and it looks like there is some dissatisfaction with the old code and a rewrite is in progress? (I see the xtools-rebirth repo on github). If someone could give me a brief overview of what's happening with xtools and where things are going that would be great, and an idea of how I can contribute my idea. _______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:xTools@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Technically I was working on a rewrite but I lost interest.
Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator
On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:41, John Montegra mabandalone@gmail.com wrote:
Ok thanks, I'll start having a look into the code.
On 25/09/15 00:33, MusikAnimal wrote: I don't think a rewrite is going to happen. If there's anything that needs attention, it's the articleinfo tool, but we do have working alternatives for that (WikiHistory, Sigma's tool, WikiChecker, etc). Feel free to take a stab at it if you're up for it. You can get some technical info on how far people have gotten at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:XTools
All the other tools are more or less stable, so long as the cronjob continue to gives it an occasional restart.
Thanks
On 24 September 2015 at 19:29, John Montegra mabandalone@gmail.com wrote: Hello there,
I code in PHP, Javascript and Python and have a specific 'want', which is to improve the xtools gadget browser plugin-like thing (which I think will involve the file xtools/api.php) that currently shows revisions/authors etc. so it can show more data on hover dropdown (like top 10 authors). I've been using this gadget for a year, and it still works but I notice that the full page statistics and pageviews links no longer seem to work.
I don't know much about the current state of these tools, but I may also be up for making some other contributions if needed, depending on their complexity.
I've had a brief look over the mailing list archives and it looks like there is some dissatisfaction with the old code and a rewrite is in progress? (I see the xtools-rebirth repo on github). If someone could give me a brief overview of what's happening with xtools and where things are going that would be great, and an idea of how I can contribute my idea.
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Part of the gadget accesses the wikiviewstats https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiviewstats/ tool, which is down.
Cyberpower678 do you know why this is?
I now have a ssh account on the tools.wmflabs.org server. How do I access the code, and how do you guys test stuff, do you just develop locally?
On 25/09/15 00:41, John Montegra wrote:
Ok thanks, I'll start having a look into the code.
On 25/09/15 00:33, MusikAnimal wrote:
I don't think a rewrite is going to happen. If there's anything that needs attention, it's the articleinfo tool, but we do have working alternatives for that (WikiHistory, Sigma's tool, WikiChecker, etc). Feel free to take a stab at it if you're up for it. You can get some technical info on how far people have gotten at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:XTools
All the other tools are more or less stable, so long as the cronjob continue to gives it an occasional restart.
Thanks
On 24 September 2015 at 19:29, John Montegra <mabandalone@gmail.com mailto:mabandalone@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello there, I code in PHP, Javascript and Python and have a specific 'want', which is to improve the xtools gadget <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hedonil/XTools> browser plugin-like thing (which I think will involve the file xtools/api.php) that currently shows revisions/authors etc. so it can show more data on hover dropdown (like top 10 authors). I've been using this gadget for a year, and it still works but I notice that the full page statistics and pageviews links no longer seem to work. I don't know much about the current state of these tools, but I may also be up for making some other contributions if needed, depending on their complexity. I've had a brief look over the mailing list archives and it looks like there is some dissatisfaction with the old code and a rewrite is in progress? (I see the xtools-rebirth repo on github). If someone could give me a brief overview of what's happening with xtools and where things are going that would be great, and an idea of how I can contribute my idea. _______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:xTools@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools
Nobody actually knows what is going on now with any of the tools that over the years became essential and have not worked properly or have not worked at all since they were moved from the ToolServer to WMF Labs.
As far as I understand, a major problem is with the lack of the promised service/mainteance/development by te WMF of their Labs environment which according to them at the time the wrested it from de.Wiki was going to be light years more efficient and advanced. In contrast, we have only a few of the tools working while thers are exaperating slow - if thy dont time out before they have produced a result.
The problems have been exacebated by users with IT skills having been blocked, banned, biting off more tan they could chew, or simply retired for reasons in RL. Sadly this is all getting us nowhere.
One admin suggested recently we all chip in to pay someone. I’m curious why nobody has applied for a grant - the WMF is begging for applicants.
Kudpung
On 25Sep, 2015, at 06:29, John Montegra mabandalone@gmail.com wrote:
Hello there,
I code in PHP, Javascript and Python and have a specific 'want', which is to improve the xtools gadget https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hedonil/XTools browser plugin-like thing (which I think will involve the file xtools/api.php) that currently shows revisions/authors etc. so it can show more data on hover dropdown (like top 10 authors). I've been using this gadget for a year, and it still works but I notice that the full page statistics and pageviews links no longer seem to work.
I don't know much about the current state of these tools, but I may also be up for making some other contributions if needed, depending on their complexity.
I've had a brief look over the mailing list archives and it looks like there is some dissatisfaction with the old code and a rewrite is in progress? (I see the xtools-rebirth repo on github). If someone could give me a brief overview of what's happening with xtools and where things are going that would be great, and an idea of how I can contribute my idea. _______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon, L235 xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools