Hi WREN and GLAM folks,
I need your insights into what could be a very problematic year for us in
the GLAM wiki community, as our metrics tools to measure our impact are in
crisis and disrepair. If you have any insights, please do share them here,
or in the GLAM Wiki Telegram group where this conversation started
I sent a "HELP!" message to the Wikimedia SE content partnerships help desk
just the other day, included below, and hope this may be useful to start a
conversation. If there is enough interest, we might want to start a wiki
page to formally document our needs as a GLAM wiki community. Thanks.
I'd like to formally employ the Helpdesk's services in getting some care
and attention to BaGLAMa2. It seems to have been failing since the end of
last year, and even then, it was reporting extremely low figures for all
categories. This is one of the few tools we have in the GLAM wiki community
to measure impact and to make the case for sustaining our work.
Without these basic metrics, 2023 could prove to be a disastrous year for
continuing efforts. So far, we have been unable to report good, reliable
numbers to folks such as the Metropolitan Museum of Art or the Smithsonian
Institution. Other on-demand tools such as Glamorgan usually cannot handle
such large category trees, and also have their own problems with not being
able to read the pageviews API numbers accurately, which is another issue
In short - help! How can we get this on the radar screen of people who can
put more care, attention, and resources into this? Thanks.
Dear Amanda and ALL,
we can start with a short 30min meeting this Saturday or alternatively
Sunday if that works for others? Who else can-would join?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 7:06 PM Amanda Lawrence <amanda.lawrence(a)rmit.edu.au>
> Thanks for the suggestion, sorry for the slow response. I'm in CET +10
> (Aust Eastern Day Time or AEDT) so it does get tricky.
> Currently 1pm CET is 11pm AEDT and 7 am ET (daylight savings will end here
> soon and start other places so may change by an hour). So 1pm CET or
> earlier would be great for me. I'd love to attend a meeting at some point
> and get to meet people.
Thank you for elaborating. Hope others join in also.
> Something I've noticed is a lot of the info on WiR is focussed on GLAM
> orgs but I am in a Research Centre so there are quite different issues and
> content editing is definitely something I need to do, with colleagues, but
> also directly myself.
Understandable. Mind you there are other WiRs in academia and elsewhere (I
am in NGO now) so there are huge differences indeed (can relate to that
> So it was quite confusing at the beginning seeing that some guides say no
> paid editing while others say it is fine (for English Wikipedia) and
> Wikidata seems to be no problem.
I gave up on absolute coherence in Wikimedia after finding similar (but
also sometimes opposing) info and guidance in different corners on
Wikimedia, so I hope you are not discouraged with this situation, but
rather proactive to help advance and articulate some aspects :-)
> There is a big community in health but I am in a social science area so
> trying to adapt health approaches to a far more diverse and disparate
> community and subject area.
I hear you. Wikimedia Foundation Research team work is also done without a
single social science person, but that is hopefully going to change in the
> I'm also interested in working with Wikidata but still trying to work out
> how that would be effective for my organisation and the field.
Join the (big) club. Many try to do this in different fields, while those
who already know it also keep expanding their agenda.
> If anyone has any good links on being a WiR in a social science field I
> would love to hear about them.
I would also love to have us look at this together and come up with a good
way to establish an overview of WiRs across topics and fields (timeline
Best Z. Blace
There are two days left for submissions for Wikimania panels or sessions.
Has anyone submitted or is anyone planning on submitting sessions on their
GLAM work, or might folks be interested in making a WREN panel to discuss
the last year's worth of learnings, and also do some evangelism for WREN?
A very regrettable thing for this year's Wikimania is that the submissions
are not public. That makes it impossible to figure out what other people
are submitting or what they are thinking. So if you have any sessions you
are proposing, do share them here. Or we can combine forces on a session.
1. From the Smithsonian side, we will likely submit one about the American
Women's History Initiative and summing up our edit-a-thon and other
activities - what we learned, what techniques have worked, and plans for
2. GLAM tools and best practices - Incorporating SDC into the workflow,
best tools for 2022? Might this be a session of interest for folks to
3. We've had a GLAM Culture Crawl day in the past, where we have training
sessions and discussions oriented towards teaching GLAMs new to wiki
contribution. Might this be an interesting thing to propose?
Any other ideas welcome.
I haven't posted to this list in a while, but wanted to plug that there will be a community meeting on gender and related information on Wikidata.
This will take place on February 1, 2023 at 9:30AM PT/12:30PM ET/17:30 UTC (time zone converter<https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1675272629>). Please see the attached calendar invite. Call details are also below.
The meeting will start with a brief overview of ongoing work to make gender-related information more precise, accurate, and ethical in Wikidata. We will identify current challenges and walk through a logic model on the handling of pronouns in Wikidata, as developed through the initial phase of this work. We welcome feedback, general discussion, and concerns from attendees with an eye towards collaboration on future work.
We hope to see you soon!
Alex Jung, Clair Kronk, and Crystal Yragui
Date: February 1, 2023
Start time: 9:30AM PT/12:30PM ET/17:30 UTC (Time zone converter<https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1675272638>)
Meeting ID: 879 7184 6222