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04 Oct '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Panchunxiang3802482 <panchunxiang3802482(a)gmail.com> Date: 2007-10-3 下午12:53 Subject: 维基百科电子邮件 To: Shizhao <shizhao(a)gmail.com> 我不能修改鲁迅的页面。我是用代理的，不知道这个是否对我编辑页面有影响。我觉得weiji对鲁迅的总结很破碎，不能给出一个有意义的定义和影响。对于这样一个在中国近代史上有重大影响的人，weiji对鲁迅的不能完整把握是对weiji的亵渎。 -- Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://talk.blogbus.com CNBlog: http://blog.cnblog.org/weblog.html Social Brain: http://www.socialbrain.org cnbloggercon: http://www.cnbloggercon.org/ MeMedia: http://memedia.cn [[zh:User:Shizhao]]

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Re: [Wikizh-l] [Foundation-l] wikipedia, metawiki, wiktionnaire restricted from China AGAIN?
by Andrew Lih 24 Aug '07

24 Aug '07

FYI, after talking to the smart tech folks of Wikimedia, access to *.wikipedia.org from China should be back to the state of affairs as of a few days ago. That is, everything accessible except for zh.wikipedia.org. I can confirm this is true from my Beijing connection. -Andrew On 8/22/07, Vincent Mandrilly <vmandrilly(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > 2 days ago, everything was ok, but from then yesterday or the day before yesterday, I started not being able to see the following websites : > > www.wiktionary.org > http://wikimediafoundation.org/ > www.wikipedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > (Note : But www.wikimedia.fr/ is accessible) > > Note : The access was just fine from both 2 chinse internet providers in Guangzhou, China, and all the sudden, I couldn't access them on both at home and at work. > > - Could you please confirm that it is not the websites that are down ? > - Is this due to a move of host IP to a IP range restricted by chinese internet providers ? > - Or is this due to a new dark age for wikipedia in China ? For the last 3 or 4 months, Chinese pages were restricted but not the other langueges pages.... > > Sincerely, > > (Tired of this stupid government who blocks just everything without reason, and they won't even bother to write "sorry, this website is against the law, we restricted access" they just let you believe the page doesnt exists.) > > And my software to get through the Internet Great Wall is not working for now.... :-(( > > V. > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >

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Fwd: Fwd: [Foundation-l] wikipedia, metawiki, wiktionnaire restricted from China AGAIN?
by 吴明玺 23 Aug '07

23 Aug '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 吴明玺 <fengshenx(a)gmail.com> Date: 2007-8-23 上午8:36 Subject: Re: [Wikizh-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] wikipedia, metawiki, wiktionnaire restricted from China AGAIN? To: Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com> Hi, I am using gladder plugin with Firefox for getting through the Greate Wall, and it works very well.You can find it at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2864 . BR, Mingxi 2007/8/22, Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com>: > > FYI... > > In the last few days, I've found that my DNS resolves to the Tampa > servers (which are blocked) rather than the Seoul servers (which are > unblocked). This may explain the problem below. > > -Andrew > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Vincent Mandrilly <vmandrilly(a)hotmail.com> > Date: Aug 22, 2007 8:46 AM > Subject: [Foundation-l] wikipedia, metawiki, wiktionnaire restricted > from China AGAIN? > To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Hello, > > 2 days ago, everything was ok, but from then yesterday or the day > before yesterday, I started not being able to see the following > websites : > > www.wiktionary.org > http://wikimediafoundation.org/ > www.wikipedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > (Note : But www.wikimedia.fr/ is accessible) > > Note : The access was just fine from both 2 chinse internet providers > in Guangzhou, China, and all the sudden, I couldn't access them on > both at home and at work. > > - Could you please confirm that it is not the websites that are down ? > - Is this due to a move of host IP to a IP range restricted by chinese > internet providers ? > - Or is this due to a new dark age for wikipedia in China ? For the > last 3 or 4 months, Chinese pages were restricted but not the other > langueges pages.... > > Sincerely, > > (Tired of this stupid government who blocks just everything without > reason, and they won't even bother to write "sorry, this website is > against the law, we restricted access" they just let you believe the > page doesnt exists.) > > And my software to get through the Internet Great Wall is not working > for now.... :-(( > > V. > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikizh-l mailing list > Wikizh-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikizh-l >

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Fwd: [Foundation-l] wikipedia, metawiki, wiktionnaire restricted from China AGAIN?
by Andrew Lih 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

FYI... In the last few days, I've found that my DNS resolves to the Tampa servers (which are blocked) rather than the Seoul servers (which are unblocked). This may explain the problem below. -Andrew ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vincent Mandrilly <vmandrilly(a)hotmail.com> Date: Aug 22, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] wikipedia, metawiki, wiktionnaire restricted from China AGAIN? To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Hello, 2 days ago, everything was ok, but from then yesterday or the day before yesterday, I started not being able to see the following websites : www.wiktionary.org http://wikimediafoundation.org/ www.wikipedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/ (Note : But www.wikimedia.fr/ is accessible) Note : The access was just fine from both 2 chinse internet providers in Guangzhou, China, and all the sudden, I couldn't access them on both at home and at work. - Could you please confirm that it is not the websites that are down ? - Is this due to a move of host IP to a IP range restricted by chinese internet providers ? - Or is this due to a new dark age for wikipedia in China ? For the last 3 or 4 months, Chinese pages were restricted but not the other langueges pages.... Sincerely, (Tired of this stupid government who blocks just everything without reason, and they won't even bother to write "sorry, this website is against the law, we restricted access" they just let you believe the page doesnt exists.) And my software to get through the Internet Great Wall is not working for now.... :-(( V. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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by LiuHang 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

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by jia coral 25 May '07

25 May '07

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Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki link tools
by shi zhao 18 May '07

18 May '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stian Haklev <shaklev(a)gmail.com> Date: 2007-5-18 下午1:23 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki link tools To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Hi everyone, as a multilingual user of Wikipedia, I am always looking for new ways of using and accessing the content from different language wikis. I am Norwegian, but I read Chinese and I have several friends who often edit there. Whoever, if I want to look up an article in Chinese Wikipedia, it's a hassle since I don't necessarily know how they write "Oslo" or "Plato" in Chinese... so I did this little tool http://70.47.70.10/redir/en/zh/Oslo it will automatically git you the page in Chinese Wikipedia that is interlinked from the article about Oslo in the English Wikipedia. (This works for all language combinations - given that there are interwiki links - and all articles. Use _ instead of spaces). http://70.47.70.10/redir/no/ar/Demokrati it only downloads the first article, does a quick regexp, and forwards to the second article. I have posted about this on the Norwegian and Indonesian community pages. Not sure what is the place to list this tool on the English wiki / Mediawiki? -- Another thing that has struck me is that being able to read several languages, I often don't really mind that much which wiki a certain article comes from - but I would like to read the longest or most complete article on a given topic. However in practice I find myself often "constrained" to the English wikipedia because that is generally the best, or the Indonesian if I am reading on Indonesian topics etc. so this url http://70.47.70.10/bigger/en/no,sv,id,ms/Poland will automatically redirect you to whatever of the articles in no, sv, id or ms that is _longer_ (pure bytesize, not very scientific but still) of the articles linkes from the English Poland page. This is insanely useful (it's mainly meant to be a Firefox bookmark - plug in the languages you are comfortable reading in, call it big, and whenever you want an article type big Television, and you will get the longest article in one of the languages you know). However - right now what it's doing is downloading a full page from each of the Wikipedias, to find the size. So in the above example, it would download five full pages, before redirecting the user to one of them (causing it to be downloaded again)... I'm obviously not happy about wasting Wikipedia bandwidth, so I wonder if there is a better way of doing this - getting just the size of any given page... I will not post this online anywhere else, until I have some guidance from this list. Both are written in respectively 20 and 43 lines of Ruby CGI code btw. I can post the code if anyone wants it. Stian _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://talk.blogbus.com CNBlog: http://blog.cnblog.org/weblog.html Social Brain: http://www.socialbrain.org/default.asp cnbloggercon: http://www.cnbloggercon.org/ [[zh:User:Shizhao]]

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deadline extension for participation in Wikipedia study
by Kurt Jansson 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Dear Chinese Wikipedia community, I am conducting a study of the Wikipedia communities in six different languages for my diploma thesis. Please read my initial announcement for more information: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kurt_Jansson I owe a big "thank you" to everybody who has helped answer my questions. So far over 50 people across six Wikipedia communities have contributed to their community's answers and I am grateful for their help. However, for the study to be comprehensive I need more people to get involved. Some communities also seem to need more time to discuss and work out the answers. Therefore I have extended the deadline for participation until May 13th. I have used mailing lists and village pumps to spread the announcement about my research questions, but every community has their own channels for the distribution of information. So, I ask you to help get more people involved to make sure the results accurately represent your community. When phrasing the answers, please approach it as if you were writing a Wikipedia article: try to work on joint answers that your community can agree on. The answers don't need to be neutral in an NPOV kind of way, but please try to give a comprehensive picture of the processes and ideals of your community. The questions can be found at http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kurt_Jansson/questions ; please edit the questions page to contribute. Best wishes, Kurt

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questions about your community and the product you create
by Kurt Jansson 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Dear Chinese Wikipedia community, my name is Kurt Jansson, I have been a contributor to the German language Wikipedia right since its start in 2001. I am also the president of Wikimedia Germany, the German chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation. I'm currently writing a diploma thesis about the Wikipedia project and its editions in different languages. It's a qualitative study based on interviews with six different Wikipedia communities. I hope you to answer eight questions concerning your community and the encyclopedia you've created. I have put the questions on a subpage of my user page and would like you to answer them there. You can use the discussion page to discuss your answers within your community and agree on your joint answers. http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kurt_Jansson/questions Obviously I would like you to answer my questions the wiki way: You may edit the existing answers that are already there, but try to find consensual answers that the core community can agree on. If there are controversial points of view: say so, elaborate on them and point out if one of them represents the majority's opinion. The final answers should be in English, but of course you can translate the questions and use Chinese on the discussion page to discuss your answers and integrate the thinkings of non-English speakers. Deadline for the answers is April the 29th. Of course I will make the results of my study public and publish them under a free license. I am sure this is a great opportunity for every Wikipedia community to tell others about their project and also to learn from others. But of course this will work best if the answers of other communities don't influence your own answers. So if you have to peek, please try nevertheless to focus on an answer that fits best for your own project. I'm using mailing lists and village pumps to call attention to the interview questions. If you know other or more appropriate places to raise people's attention, please put this notice there. I'd also be happy if you could translate this notice into Chinese so that people with no English skills feel also invited to participate in this survey. Thanks for taking part! Best wishes, Kurt

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Profile of Chinese Wikipedia
by Andrew Lih 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

FYI, if you folks could help contribute to a profile of Chinese Wikipedia, it would be greatly appreciated. And certainly, feel free to forward to other Wikipedians. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikipedia For some examples of other Wikipedia profiles, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/German_Wikipedia http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Wikipedia http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_history Thanks. -Andrew (User:Fuzheado)

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