Hello Mobile fans :)
Florian and and myself earlier created a draft for a Mobile Newsletter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Newsletter -- it is currently a bit outdated since it has been around for a while. Given the comments on phab ticket. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93529, it is likely that this needs to be streamlined with other newsletters, however, meanwhile the coordination, please check and let me know: 1. What would be the best approach to create it --agree on sections (new features, testing, etc) where volunteers, PMs and CL add details to? 2. This format is too detailed? Too brief? What else do we need to see on a newsletter for mobile?
Obviously, it has to be made mobile friendly, as well. :)
Comments, suggestions, thoughts?
Many Thanks! Moushira
Who is the target audience?
If I understand correctly, the target audience for the weekly Tech news and the monthly VE news is experienced active editing Wikipedians (I don't know if it was ever designated, but I am making an educated guess of the actual practice).
But what is it for the mobile newsletter? Active editing Wikipedians don't do it much on mobile AFAIK, although it may be defined as the newsletter's goal to increase this number.
Wikipedia readers? There are many millions of those on mobile, but do they read the newsletters? Certainly not on Village Pumps. Maybe it could be delivered as a notification in the mobile web or in the apps?
What else?
New editors? Projects' JS and CSS maintainers? Gadget lovers? Twitter aficionados? Somebody else?
This target audience should be defined before starting to publishing it.
(N.B.: I didn't mention translation!!! :) )
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-04-15 12:41 GMT+03:00 Moushira Elamrawy melamrawy@wikimedia.org:
Hello Mobile fans :)
Florian and and myself earlier created a draft for a Mobile Newsletter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Newsletter -- it is currently a bit outdated since it has been around for a while. Given the comments on phab ticket. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93529, it is likely that this needs to be streamlined with other newsletters, however, meanwhile the coordination, please check and let me know:
- What would be the best approach to create it --agree on sections (new
features, testing, etc) where volunteers, PMs and CL add details to? 2. This format is too detailed? Too brief? What else do we need to see on a newsletter for mobile?
Obviously, it has to be made mobile friendly, as well. :)
Comments, suggestions, thoughts?
Many Thanks! Moushira
Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Sounds very reasonable. A lot of changes happen in mobile, some are tangent to desktop experiences, and pro-actively sharing those updates while in planning or early stage, is a good practice. In addition, keeping the community updated and aware of what is happening in mobile, helps present the bigger picture of why stuff are being built/modified, and helps get more interest and suggestions or objections to what is being done. Similarly for new comers or readers community on mobile, understanding/learning more about what is being done and what is coming next, could be a step forward towards further engagement. Makes sense? If so, then the next question should be, where would this live? VP, email newsletter, MW, etc..:)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
Who is the target audience?
If I understand correctly, the target audience for the weekly Tech news and the monthly VE news is experienced active editing Wikipedians (I don't know if it was ever designated, but I am making an educated guess of the actual practice).
But what is it for the mobile newsletter? Active editing Wikipedians don't do it much on mobile AFAIK, although it may be defined as the newsletter's goal to increase this number.
Wikipedia readers? There are many millions of those on mobile, but do they read the newsletters? Certainly not on Village Pumps. Maybe it could be delivered as a notification in the mobile web or in the apps?
What else?
New editors? Projects' JS and CSS maintainers? Gadget lovers? Twitter aficionados? Somebody else?
This target audience should be defined before starting to publishing it.
(N.B.: I didn't mention translation!!! :) )
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-04-15 12:41 GMT+03:00 Moushira Elamrawy melamrawy@wikimedia.org:
Hello Mobile fans :)
Florian and and myself earlier created a draft for a Mobile Newsletter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Newsletter -- it is currently a bit outdated since it has been around for a while. Given the comments on phab ticket. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93529, it is likely that this needs to be streamlined with other newsletters, however, meanwhile the coordination, please check and let me know:
- What would be the best approach to create it --agree on sections (new
features, testing, etc) where volunteers, PMs and CL add details to? 2. This format is too detailed? Too brief? What else do we need to see on a newsletter for mobile?
Obviously, it has to be made mobile friendly, as well. :)
Comments, suggestions, thoughts?
Many Thanks! Moushira
Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Transparency is a good thing and I think it's great that we're doing this. The main problem in my opinion with comms is people complain about missing announcements so we need to make sure such a newsletter gets posted in all the channels .e.g. all the necessary village pumps... mobile-l... mediawiki.org etc. etc..
On 15 Apr 2015 3:21 am, "Moushira Elamrawy" melamrawy@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sounds very reasonable. A lot of changes happen in mobile, some are tangent to desktop experiences, and pro-actively sharing those updates while in planning or early stage, is a good practice. In addition, keeping the community updated and aware of what is happening in mobile, helps present the bigger picture of why stuff are being built/modified, and helps get more interest and suggestions or objections to what is being done. Similarly for new comers or readers community on mobile, understanding/learning more about what is being done and what is coming next, could be a step forward towards further engagement. Makes sense? If so, then the next question should be, where would this live? VP, email newsletter, MW, etc..:)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Who is the target audience?
If I understand correctly, the target audience for the weekly Tech news and the monthly VE news is experienced active editing Wikipedians (I don't know if it was ever designated, but I am making an educated guess of the actual practice).
But what is it for the mobile newsletter? Active editing Wikipedians don't do it much on mobile AFAIK, although it may be defined as the newsletter's goal to increase this number.
Wikipedia readers? There are many millions of those on mobile, but do they read the newsletters? Certainly not on Village Pumps. Maybe it could be delivered as a notification in the mobile web or in the apps?
What else?
New editors? Projects' JS and CSS maintainers? Gadget lovers? Twitter aficionados? Somebody else?
This target audience should be defined before starting to publishing it.
(N.B.: I didn't mention translation!!! :) )
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-04-15 12:41 GMT+03:00 Moushira Elamrawy melamrawy@wikimedia.org:
Hello Mobile fans :)
Florian and and myself earlier created a draft for a Mobile Newsletter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Newsletter -- it is currently a bit outdated since it has been around for a while. Given the comments on phab ticket. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93529, it is likely that this needs to be streamlined with other newsletters, however, meanwhile the coordination, please check and let me know:
- What would be the best approach to create it --agree on sections (new features, testing, etc) where volunteers, PMs and CL add details to?
- This format is too detailed? Too brief? What else do we need to see on a newsletter for mobile?
Obviously, it has to be made mobile friendly, as well. :)
Comments, suggestions, thoughts?
Many Thanks! Moushira
Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
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