Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia. My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the blockchain in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1] https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/09/la-wikipedia-ya-...
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia. My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the blockchain in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1] https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/09/la-wikipedia-ya-...
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
I bet we can sell a "Wikipedia on the Arduino platform" with ease, while a couple of years ago we'd had sold a "Wikipedia on the cloud" also ;)
Vito
2017-12-11 16:49 GMT+01:00 bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com:
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish
Wikipedia.
My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the
blockchain
in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1] https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/
09/la-wikipedia-ya-no-se-podra-modificar-arbitrariamente-gracias-a- blockchain/
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
When discussing Everipedia one should also mention that the site in its current form does not respect the copyrights of both English Wikipedia editors and Commons uploaders: the articles and the files on this fork have been contributed without any declaration about the licence of the original works /anywhere/, the licence of the project itself is a general ‘CC’, which is /not a licence/.
Everipedia as far as we are concerned is a dishonest attempt by Silicon Valley’s VC culture to co-opt the encyclopedic format into something that could be sold in few years. Given the blatant copyright infringements on the site, however, WMF should’ve made some commentary on the site given the influx of the news about it in early December.
On 11/12/2017 18:49, bawolff wrote:
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia. My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the blockchain in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1] https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/09/la-wikipedia-ya-...
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Nice to hear that is "a bluff". The bad practice about the content licenses isn't a new thing to fight as free knowledge movement and we could fight against it using our best resources -as volunteers-: social networking and fill the contact forms. Other ways, as lawsuits, could take a long time and resources and... *boring* legal-stuff.
Thanks everyone for your answers.
Regards
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Saint Johann ole.yves@gmail.com wrote:
When discussing Everipedia one should also mention that the site in its current form does not respect the copyrights of both English Wikipedia editors and Commons uploaders: the articles and the files on this fork have been contributed without any declaration about the licence of the original works *anywhere*, the licence of the project itself is a general ‘CC’, which is *not a licence*.
Everipedia as far as we are concerned is a dishonest attempt by Silicon Valley’s VC culture to co-opt the encyclopedic format into something that could be sold in few years. Given the blatant copyright infringements on the site, however, WMF should’ve made some commentary on the site given the influx of the news about it in early December.
On 11/12/2017 18:49, bawolff wrote:
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia. My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the blockchain in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1]https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/09/la-wikipedia-ya-...
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing listWikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing listWikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
I'd actually prefer a DMCA takedown, I find amusing to fight "restrictive copyright" with its own weapon.
Vito
2017-12-11 18:07 GMT+01:00 Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com:
Nice to hear that is "a bluff". The bad practice about the content licenses isn't a new thing to fight as free knowledge movement and we could fight against it using our best resources -as volunteers-: social networking and fill the contact forms. Other ways, as lawsuits, could take a long time and resources and... *boring* legal-stuff.
Thanks everyone for your answers.
Regards
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Saint Johann ole.yves@gmail.com wrote:
When discussing Everipedia one should also mention that the site in its current form does not respect the copyrights of both English Wikipedia editors and Commons uploaders: the articles and the files on this fork have been contributed without any declaration about the licence of the original works *anywhere*, the licence of the project itself is a general ‘CC’, which is *not a licence*.
Everipedia as far as we are concerned is a dishonest attempt by Silicon Valley’s VC culture to co-opt the encyclopedic format into something that could be sold in few years. Given the blatant copyright infringements on the site, however, WMF should’ve made some commentary on the site given the influx of the news about it in early December.
On 11/12/2017 18:49, bawolff wrote:
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia. My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the blockchain in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1]https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/09/la-wikipedia-ya-...
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing listWikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing listWikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Excuse me joining the convo' off-topic. Is revekit.com legit? I returned to my com' with a new tab open stating the update is complete all I had to do is activate. Info on this tab wasn't congruent with the awikipedia page stating it is based in Washington. The tab stated it is based in Minnesota.
On 11 Dec. 2017 11:49 pm, "bawolff" bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish
Wikipedia.
My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the
blockchain
in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1] https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/
09/la-wikipedia-ya-no-se-podra-modificar-arbitrariamente-gracias-a- blockchain/
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
This is my impression as well: Everipedia is a project with rather unclear goals, which seems to have more hype than substance at this point.
Another recent example of something like a "encyclopedia on a blockchain" is Lunyr, which also looks like vaporware that doesn't deserve a lot of attention.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2017-12-11 17:49 GMT+02:00 bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com:
Hi,
So everipedia.com looks like some sort of Wikipedia fork/competitor. Larry Sanger is appearently involved with it (I guess he got bored of Citzendium). They seem to be a for profit company that wants to be more inclusionist than Wikipedia, and also raise money by selling customized articles.
They appear to be advertising that they are doing something with "encylopedias" and "blockchain". However, they never specify what they are doing, there are no white papers or technical details, which is a good measure that something is BS.
Probably they are trying to cash in on the hype around bitcoin. Blockchain is an ill-defined enough concept that you can make almost anything be "on the blockchain". Unless you are making a currency, it is usually a solution looking for a problem.
This definitely has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Wikimedia.
-- Bawolff
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Tobar dennis.tobar@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone:
I signed, the past week, the list of Tech Ambassador for Spanish
Wikipedia.
My username is Superzerocool, a veteran user (over 12 years) in Wikimedia movement, and in the real life I being an Engineer Informatic. I live in Chile and I am currently part of the Board of Wikimedia Chile.
In some chapter off-wiki talk (Telegram), an user share us a possibly fake-news about the usage of blockchain to avoid the vandalism.
As I see the article[1] (in Spanish), the news talks about Everipedia, a startup related with Blockchain technology and how they use the
blockchain
in English articles(?).
As I see the article, the news is fake.
Kindly,
[1] https://www.cuartopoder.es/innovacion/tecnologia/2017/12/
09/la-wikipedia-ya-no-se-podra-modificar-arbitrariamente-gracias-a- blockchain/
-- Dennis Tobar Calderón Ingeniero en Informática UTEM
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org