I am not sure if this is appropriate here, but I do not know where to ask otherwise...
On Beta Wikiversity someone is active now who uses the project as his personal notepad/sandbox. The pages created in Dutch are short Wikipedia articles, copy of a message of the yearplan of WMNL, texts of Wikisource, Wikinews articles, and for every person he contacted he creates a page. In his communication towards those people he presents himself as Wikiversity and says such in these pages. All these pages do not contain educational content.
Another major issue is that private information is added to these pages, privacy violation for no reason.
Another issue is the adding of copyrighted material
Because of there is no Dutch community there, nobody takes action. At the moment the Dutch chapter is working on setting up an education program, but the current material would discredit the attempt and we do not consider it realistic to start up this project at Beta Wikiversity.
How to act?
Romaine
(ambassador for the Dutch community)
Security should be the key at this stage for this issue.
We need to ensure we do not add or include such people. We need to get as much details and escalate to the highest management or inform the Wikipedia.org there is a place you can report about it -like the bug -create one and inform about it.
This way the forum stays more secured. We need to create some firewalls or ensure some encryption to prevent such incidents.
hope this way we can find a way or reach out to the management. Please dig the archive and see the management line...
Thanks & Best Regards Sri
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:21 PM, R W romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I am not sure if this is appropriate here, but I do not know where to ask otherwise...
On Beta Wikiversity someone is active now who uses the project as his personal notepad/sandbox. The pages created in Dutch are short Wikipedia articles, copy of a message of the yearplan of WMNL, texts of Wikisource, Wikinews articles, and for every person he contacted he creates a page. In his communication towards those people he presents himself as Wikiversity and says such in these pages. All these pages do not contain educational content.
Another major issue is that private information is added to these pages, privacy violation for no reason.
Another issue is the adding of copyrighted material
Because of there is no Dutch community there, nobody takes action. At the moment the Dutch chapter is working on setting up an education program, but the current material would discredit the attempt and we do not consider it realistic to start up this project at Beta Wikiversity.
How to act?
Romaine
(ambassador for the Dutch community)
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:21 PM, R W romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I am not sure if this is appropriate here, but I do not know where to ask otherwise...
On Beta Wikiversity someone is active now who uses the project as his personal notepad/sandbox. The pages created in Dutch are short Wikipedia articles, copy of a message of the yearplan of WMNL, texts of Wikisource, Wikinews articles, and for every person he contacted he creates a page. In his communication towards those people he presents himself as Wikiversity and says such in these pages. All these pages do not contain educational content.
Another major issue is that private information is added to these pages, privacy violation for no reason.
Another issue is the adding of copyrighted material
Because of there is no Dutch community there, nobody takes action. At the moment the Dutch chapter is working on setting up an education program, but the current material would discredit the attempt and we do not consider it realistic to start up this project at Beta Wikiversity.
How to act?
If you need admin action on a wiki which has no admins, ask the stewards: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Miscellaneous
If you just want advice then some non-technical forum like wikimedia-l might be more helpful.
I am not certain how this is particularly relevant to the wikitech-ambassadors mailing list, in fact it seems off-topic.
At a glance, it seems that it is a matter for beta.wikiversity community, especially their admins and bureaucrats about the scope the contributions. My understanding is that nlWV is hosted at betaWV, and all the remainder nlWx each have their own sister sites, so it seems that other components would be out of scope, and that the admins should be able to manage that aspect. If attempts there lack traction, then look to a meta community discussion. If there is issues around privacy and oversight, then it is a referral to the stewards (no local oversight) so email to the the stewards OTRS, if needs be [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards]
Regards, Billinghurst
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:21:13 +0200, R W romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I am not sure if this is appropriate here, but I do not know where to
ask
otherwise...
On Beta Wikiversity someone is active now who uses the project as his personal notepad/sandbox. The pages created in Dutch are short Wikipedia articles, copy of a message of the yearplan of WMNL, texts of
Wikisource,
Wikinews articles, and for every person he contacted he creates a page.
In
his communication towards those people he presents himself as
Wikiversity
and says such in these pages. All these pages do not contain educational content.
Another major issue is that private information is added to these pages, privacy violation for no reason.
Another issue is the adding of copyrighted material
Because of there is no Dutch community there, nobody takes action. At
the
moment the Dutch chapter is working on setting up an education program,
but
the current material would discredit the attempt and we do not consider
it
realistic to start up this project at Beta Wikiversity.
How to act?
Romaine
(ambassador for the Dutch community)
I don't see anything urgent here. The pages in question are 2/3 of the domain and there are active sysops: if you're in a hurry, you'd better start a discussion locally now rather than later, your last discussion edit was in 2009. When local attempts fail, historically those who believe the subdomain is currently inhabitable have several options: * live and let live: simply ask hospitality on incubator or nl.books, non-standard but equally valid homes; * community awakening: propose action at the local village pump and ask the nl.wiki community to join the discussion; * nuclear option (not recommended): ask closure of the subdomain (typically involves ForestFire across all village pumps, Wikimedia Forum, mailing lists and RfC). None of these involves wikitech-ambassadors.
Nemo
As I said, I doubt this is the appropriate list, but thanks for the reactions, I now have a better idea what is possible to do.
Thanks!
Romaine
2014-06-23 7:57 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com:
I don't see anything urgent here. The pages in question are 2/3 of the domain and there are active sysops: if you're in a hurry, you'd better start a discussion locally now rather than later, your last discussion edit was in 2009. When local attempts fail, historically those who believe the subdomain is currently inhabitable have several options:
- live and let live: simply ask hospitality on incubator or nl.books,
non-standard but equally valid homes;
- community awakening: propose action at the local village pump and ask
the nl.wiki community to join the discussion;
- nuclear option (not recommended): ask closure of the subdomain
(typically involves ForestFire across all village pumps, Wikimedia Forum, mailing lists and RfC). None of these involves wikitech-ambassadors.
Nemo
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:38 AM, R W romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
As I said, I doubt this is the appropriate list, but thanks for the reactions, I now have a better idea what is possible to do.
It is also possible to nominate Beta Wikiversity for closure, a suggestion I would gladly endorse: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects
Ryan Kaldari
Thanks!
Romaine
2014-06-23 7:57 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com:
I don't see anything urgent here. The pages in question are 2/3 of the
domain and there are active sysops: if you're in a hurry, you'd better start a discussion locally now rather than later, your last discussion edit was in 2009. When local attempts fail, historically those who believe the subdomain is currently inhabitable have several options:
- live and let live: simply ask hospitality on incubator or nl.books,
non-standard but equally valid homes;
- community awakening: propose action at the local village pump and ask
the nl.wiki community to join the discussion;
- nuclear option (not recommended): ask closure of the subdomain
(typically involves ForestFire across all village pumps, Wikimedia Forum, mailing lists and RfC). None of these involves wikitech-ambassadors.
Nemo
Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
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