I actually agree with the encouraging people to go to commons, however there's probably a limit to what we can do with the tabs while still having a tab for creating local descriptions, which can be useful sometimes. Of course translatewiki takes the approach of just disabling edits in the File namespace ( http://translatewiki.net/wiki/File:Example.png ), so there is always that. I think there was some suggestion of having an "edit on commons" tab but as the commit summary noted ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/104182/ ) there is the potential for users to be confused about where they are editing and that suddenly they are on another site (doubly so if not a wikimedia wiki with no sul) Anyways, i should reiterate, the thanks should go to [[User:This,_that_and_the_other]] who actually pushed the change forward, all I did was send some outreach notices about it. Cheers, Bawolff On Apr 8, 2014 7:26 AM, "billinghurst" <billinghurst(a)gmail.com> wrote: http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:16001000395904-Kirun… https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap#Schedule_for_the_depl… http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:16001000395904-Kirun…

2014-04-08 20:06 GMT+02:00 Raimond Spekking &lt;raimond.spekking(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: No, you do not really need a gadget. On svwiki it is solved in common.js<https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js> . *Best regards,Jan Ainali*

Thanks again Brian, it intended to be a more generic/rhetorical question, rather than aimed directly at you. With matters like this, it is often the situation of asking the question that challenges the status quo position. To me it was/is not evident that we have recently asked the question of why do we still retain local editing tabs for images at Commons. While it was suggested to do a bugzilla, I do not see that a bugzilla is the means to address this as it is not so much a technological decision, but instead a community decision over a process. I would see that this may be more about an RFC at meta that proposes that the default for WMF wikis becomes no local editing tabs, though allows local wikis to have the ability to turn on the paired local tabs by local decision. So prior to launching such a discussion, could someone with the hacking knowledge address how much programming change would be required to have the situation of * on File: ns, that for files at Commons, that the local tab can be turned off as the default, and that local communities can have the ability to turn on local tabs * that where the above is set, that where local File: exist (in combination with Commons File:), that the local ability to edit File: is unaffected Such an approach would seem to fit within the design of where some communities have local upload, and for those that do not. That gives the means for starting an RFC to propose the change to the broader community, and will provide the solution for communities who wish to opt out. Such an RFC should also address for local wikis, what local tabs is provided to get editing available to files at Commons. So as we have the views of many of the communities and the hackers, does that sound like a reasonable approach to take to progress this matter? Regards, Billinghurst On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:00:54 -0300, Brian Wolff &lt;bawolff(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: having the there forward, wrote: http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:16001000395904-Kirun… tabs this or 10 non-wikipedia https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap#Schedule_for_the_depl… https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_foreign_repo_file_tabs.png http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:16001000395904-Kirun…

On 04/08/2014 06:26 AM, billinghurst wrote: One example is to mark that an image is featured locally. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bufotes_balearicus_female_quadrat.jpg has: {{FeaturedPicture|File:Bufotes balearicus female quadrat.jpg}} as the local description. As a related note, it's confusing when viewing that local page what comes from where. The order is: <General notice that the image is on/from Commons> <Local description> <Commons description> Matt Flaschen