A recent change to MediaWiki software seems to have broken templates
everywhere. The syntax
[[:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]
used to work on a template to generate a link to a page in the same
namespace, typically used on templates related to move (rename) discussions.
However this has stopped working as of last month, causing lots of
[[::ABC|ABC]] to be displayed in plain-text everywhere when this syntax is
used in the main namespace.
We figured for now at yue.wp that
[[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]
(notice the deletion of the colon at the beginning) works and would like to
know if this is the recommended solution. This doesn't seem to have been
picked up by Linter.
Related discussion on yue.wp:
https://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3A%E5%9F%8E%E5%B8%…
Deryck
[[User:Deryck Chan]]
Sysop & ambassador, yue.wp
Hello everyone,
*TL:D**R;*
As you are aware from previous postings on this list [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
[6], we have been progressively replacing Tidy with RemexHtml on all
wikis on the wikimedia cluster. As of today, about 650 wikis have made
the switch that include a number of large wikis. We aim to complete this
switch over on the remaining 250 wikis by end of June 2018. Another 40
or so wikis will be switched on May 2nd.
There are a few large wikis (es, pt, uk, zh especially) that could use
more attention addressing Linter issues so that when we make the switch
end of June, some pages on these wiki don't render differently from how
they do now.
*
*
*Details:*
I started investigating more closely where the remaining large wikis are
with respect to the linter issues (high priority categories on the
Special:LintErrors page) that are pertinent to these wikis. I am listing
below results from running sql queries on quarry.wmflabs.org for these
wikis. If you are a community member on any of these wikis, do try to
address these on your wiki.
_15 other large wikis:_
See https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/26474 for counts of linter issues
for each of the 9 categories in the main namespace.
__
* *es, pt, uk, zh* wikis have total error counts over 10K and in some
cases, it is usually one category which needs attention.
* *vi, ro, sr, sh, ar, tr, id* are not too bad but don't seem to have
seen a lot of change which indicates that these wikis aren't looking at
linter issues.
* fr, hu, ja, pl wikis seem to be in good shape overall. There has been
a steady fixing of issues and I think all these will will be in fairly
decent shape for replacing Tidy by end of June.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Simplified_instru…
has some summarized instructions for fixing issues in different categories
_English Wikipedia:_
See https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/25665 for counts of linter issues
for each of the 9 categories in the main namespace.
English wp has been making slow and gradual progress. I think overall,
despite there still being ~8300 instances (not pages) that need fixing,
enwp is in pretty good shape for replacing Tidy by end of June.
__Commons:__
See https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/25693 for counts of linter issues
for each of the 9 categories in the File (ns6), Gallery (ns0), and
Template (ns10) namespaces.____
The vast majority of html5-misnesting errors on commons seem to come
from the use of the {{lang}} template which uses a <span> tag to wrap
content. However, it seems to be extremely common to pass content with
paragraphs into the {{lang}} template. Right now, this doesn't cause any
visible rendering issues and could be ignored temporarily, but we
strongly recommend fixing lang to use <div> or on pages which misuse
{{lang}} this way, replace use of {{lang}} by creating a new template
({{lang-block}} maybe?) that uses a <div> tag.
*
Some tips:*
1. On some wikis, fixing templates usually fixes the problem. Over the
last 6 months, I've personally spent many hours fixing 100s of templates
on 10s of different wikis and can personally attest to the efficacy of
that strategy.
2. A lot of the html5-misnesting errors seem to be from incorrectly
using a <span> tag to wrap content that has paragraphs, lists, tables.
In all these cases, changing them to <div> almost always fixes the problem.
If you need any assistance, please leave a message on
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:Linter. Between 8 am
- 4pm PST, you can also usually find us on IRC on #mediawiki-parsoid.
Thanks,
Subbu.
(on behalf of the Parsing team @ Wikimedia Foundation)
1.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2017-July/001625…
2.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2017-August/0016…
3.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-January/001…
4.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-February/00…
5.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-March/00180…
6.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-March/00182…
Sorry for cross-posting!
Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting again **the day after tomorrow,
Wednesday 3-4 pm UTC** on #wikimedia-tech.
The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers,
topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over
"who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.
If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your
topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_
Advice_IRC_Meeting
Hope to see you there!
Michi (for WMDE’s tech team)
--
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Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Sorry for cross-posting!
Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting again **tomorrow, Wednesday 3-4 pm
UTC** on #wikimedia-tech.
The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers,
topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over
"who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.
If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your
topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/
wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
Hope to see you there!
Michi (for WMDE’s tech team)
--
Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Sorry for cross-posting!
Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting again **tomorrow, Wednesday 3-4 pm
UTC** on #wikimedia-tech.
The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers,
topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over
"who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.
If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your
topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki
/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
Hope to see you there!
Michi (for WMDE’s tech team)
--
Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Hello everyone!
I am glad to report that, per previous conversations in the ambassadors'
group, a Phabricator workboard to coordinate work for the group has been
created. You will find details, and requests for your input, in the update
I published at Meta [1]. We're approaching this slowly so that there's
plenty of time for people to get a proper onboarding and to get to know
this environment.
Additionally, you can chat about this and other topics with me in person if
you're attending the Wikimedia Conference this week in Berlin [2]. I will
also be around during Learning Days. Please don't hesitate to come talk to
me! If you can't find me, try Telegram or Twitter :) [3]
There will be other occasions to discuss these topics soon, FWIW.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon,
E.
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/Ambassadors/List#Pilot_starting
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018
[3] https://twitter.com/Elitre
--
Erica Litrenta
Manager, Community Liaisons
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Elitre_(WMF)
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