Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes on
#wikimedia-tech. More infos:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
Sorry for cross-posting!
On Wednesday, August 23rd, 2017 at 3 pm UTC, we start with our weekly
Technical Advice IRC Meeting on #wikimedia-tech IRC channel.
The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers,
topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over
"who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.
If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your
topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki
/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
This meeting is an offer by WMDE’s tech team. Hosts of the meeting are:
@addshore, @CFisch_WMDE.
Hope to see you there!
Michi (for WMDE’s tech team)
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Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Sorry for cross-posting!
On Wednesday, August 23rd, 2017 at 3 pm UTC, we start with our weekly
Technical Advice IRC Meeting on #wikimedia-tech IRC channel.
The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers,
topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over
"who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.
If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your
topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/
wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
This meeting is an offer by WMDE’s tech team. Hosts of the meeting are:
@addshore, @CFisch_WMDE.
Hope to see you there!
Michi (for WMDE’s tech team)
--
Michael F. Schönitzer
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Hey all, if you are not watching
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Get_involved (and you should!),
here's an update that Subbu wanted to share with all of us about the
progress on the current initiative to fix wikitext patterns that behave
differently with RemexHTML.
Some wikis have really taken action, so that's good!, but some big
communities (notably enwp) are really behind...
As a reminder, the numbers you'll see in some dashboards do *not* mean you
need to fix millions of pages: most of the times you'll fix one template
and most if not all of them will be gone.
Also: if you want to support the communities in figuring out what's to be
done, note that
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#What_will_editors…
is marked for translation, but you could probably focus just on section 5
(the one I linked).
Finally, the team is always, always available for questions and
clarifications. Just leave a message on the talk for the FAQ page ;)
Best,
Elitre
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Followup (Re: Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia
wikis latest by June 2018)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:42:31 -0400
From: Subramanya Sastry <ssastry(a)wikimedia.org> <ssastry(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
On 07/06/2017 08:02 AM, Subramanya Sastry wrote:
>
> TL;DR
> -----
> The Parsing team wants to replace Tidy with a RemexHTML-based solution on the
> Wikimedia cluster by June 2018. This will require editors to fix pages and
> templates to address wikitext patterns that behave differently with
> RemexHTML. Please see 'What editors will need to do' section on the Tidy
> replacement FAQ [1].
>
......
>
> 9. Monitoring progress
> ----------------------
> In order to monitor progress, we plan to do a weekly (or some such periodic
> frequency) test run that compares the rendering of pages with Tidy and with
> RemexHTML on a large sample of pages (in the 50K range) from a large subset
> of Wikimedia wikis (~50 or so). This will give us a pulse of how fixups are
> going, and when we might be able to flip the switch on different wikis.
I wanted to post some followups on this.
1. We have a revived dashboard that tracks linter error counts on wikis
for all linter categories.
See https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitext-deprecation/
2. We track the error counts as they change and publish weekly snapshots
comparing counts to a July 24th baseline (which is when I first
started collecting stats)
See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/Linter/Stats
3. We also have a pixel-diffs test run (previously called visual diffs)
that compares page rendering with Tidy and with RemexHTML. The test
set has 73K pages sampled from 60 wikis. These diffs more accurately
reflect what kind of rendering differences we can expect to see if
pages are not fixed.
See http://mw-expt-tests.wmflabs.org/
4. Based on the runs above, I identified one more high priority linter
category which is a Tidy whitespace bug and needs to be fixed (expect
mostly templates, especially navboxes based on what I've seen in the
test run above). Once the code is reviewed and deployed to the
cluster, we'll start populating this category.
See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/371068/ and
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/371071/
Thanks,
Subbu.
Wiki articles can be printed by most modern web browsers.The design and
layout of printed articles by the web browser is controlled via a special
print style sheet. This is similar to, but not the same as, the "Download
as PDF" feature, which recently saw a similar update.
Our current print styles have issues printing tables that are common on
many articles. They also do not contain any reference to the Wikipedia
brand. The Readers team at the Wikimedia Foundation plans to update these
print styles with some improvements.
* Book-like styling similar to our current book (PDF) rendering option
* New layout of article content to reduce paper usage. This can potentially
reduce the number of pages printed by 20 to 25%.
* Clear printing of tables and infoboxes
* Better headings
* Project-specific branding
We are planning on deploying these styles in August 2017. For a comparison
of the old print styles and the new, please visit the project page on
MediaWiki.org. Comments and feedback can be left on the talk page there.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Print_Styles#Desktop_Pr…
Yours,
Chris Koerner
Community Liaison
Wikimedia Foundation
Crossposting!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lani Goto <lgoto(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:18 AM
Subject: CREDIT showcase, Wednesday 2-August-2017
To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Hi!
I'd like to welcome you to join us at the CREDIT showcase next week,
Wednesday, 2-August-2017 at 1800 UTC / 1100 Pacific Time. We'd like to see
your demos, whether they're rough works in progress or polished production
material, or even just a telling of something you've been studying
recently. For more information on the upcoming event, as well as recordings
of previous events, please visit the following page:
<http://goog_1968694156/>
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CREDIT_showcase
And if you'd like to share the news about the upcoming CREDIT showcase,
here's some suggested verbiage. Thanks!
*Hi <FNAME>*
*I hope all is well with you! I wanted to let you know about CREDIT, a
monthly demo series that we’re running to showcaseopen source tech projects
from Wikimedia’s Community, Reading, Editing, Discovery, Infrastructure and
Technology teams. *
*CREDIT is open to the public, and we welcome questions and discussion. The
next CREDIT will be held on August 2nd at 11am PT / 2pm ET / 18:00 UTC. *
*There’s more info on MediaWiki, and on Etherpad, which is where we take
notes and ask questions. You can also ask questions on IRC in the Freenode
chatroom #wikimedia-office (web-based access here). Links to video will
become available at these locations shortly before the event.*
*Please feel free to pass this information along to any interested folks.
Our projects tend to focus on areas that might be of interest to folks
working across the open source tech community: language detection,
numerical sort, large data visualizations, maps, and all sorts of other
things.*
*If you have any questions, please let me know! Thanks, and I hope to see
you at CREDIT.*
*YOURNAME*
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Lani Goto
Project Assistant, Engineering Admin
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Lani Goto
Project Assistant, Engineering Admin