[Apologies for cross-post]
As a reminder, on Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00
UTC)[0] there will be the first of a weekly series of open triage meetings
about VisualEditor.
We will discuss the release criteria for VisualEditor, and jointly
prioritise the work of the team, talking about the bugs and features which
are most important to you. We particularly welcome the presence of
volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code.
The joining instructions are available on MediaWiki.org[1]. Hope to see
many of you there.
[0] -
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150211T12&p1=224…
[1] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor/Portal
Yours,
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James D. Forrester
Product Manager, Editing
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester
Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the WMF Engineering Roadmap
and Deployment update.
The full log of planned deployments next week can be found at:
<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Week_of_February_9th>
A quick list of notable items... (not much)
== Tuesday ==
* MediaWiki deploy
** group1 to 1.25wmf16: All non-Wikipedia sites (Wiktionary, Wikisource,
Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikiversity, and a few other sites)
** <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.25/wmf16>
== Wednesday ==
* MediaWiki deploy
** group2 to 1.25wmf16 (all Wikipedias)
** group0 to 1.25wmf17 (test/test2/testwikidata/mediawiki)
Thanks and as always, questions and comments welcome,
Greg
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At that level, it isn't. We are doing work on freeing up our geodata
with Reid Priedhorsky; there is not, however, currently a standard for
release.
If we're talking per-project readership, though, I have pageviews by
project/geolocated country tuple. I'm happy to spend some time putting
together a sanitised set, with the understanding that (1) it's a
one-shot, (2) I'd need Dario/Toby's signoff and (3) I go on holiday
tomorrow evening for a week and a half.
On 5 February 2015 at 13:14, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that aggregated geodata like this might be available. I am adding
> Analytics to this email thread.
>
> Pine
>
> On Feb 5, 2015 8:37 AM, "Romaine Wiki" <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For Belgium I would like to know something different. Belgium doesn't have
>> a primary language, but have Dutch, French, German and English. All these
>> Wikipedia have other countries with a larger population where they speak
>> the various languages. What would be interesting for us is to know what
>> subjects are visited most in Belgium. This would be interesting per
>> language, but also the languages combined (through interwiki
>> links/Wikidata).
>>
>> Romaine
>>
>>
>> 2015-02-04 19:01 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>> > charles andrès (WMCH), 04/02/2015 14:25:
>> >
>> >> Is there a way to know how many people use Wikipedia per interface
>> >> language?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No.
>> >
>> > Said in other words, I want to know how many people display the
>> > Wikimedia
>> >> project interface in the different version of German and Alemannisch.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Until https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58464 is fixed (hopefully in
>> > this decade), the requests with non-default language are negligible.*
>> > What
>> > makes you think that you need such a level of precision and
>> > https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm is not
>> > enough?
>> >
>> > Once the use case for such precise numbers is clarified, probably we can
>> > extract exact data with a method similar to
>> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.
>> > org/T65416 after it's fixed (hopefully this year; the bug has made
>> > localisation and new subdomain requests practically impossible or
>> > unfeasible in dozens languages, for many months now).
>> >
>> > Nemo
>> >
>> > (*) Even considering the sum of requests with uselang parameter** and of
>> > registered users with a non-default language choice in preferences.
>> > (**) Even in Commons, despite all the uselang-specific incoming links
>> > and
>> > the language selection gadget.
>> >
>> >
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Oliver Keyes
Research Analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
Hi all,
a new issue of the VisualEditor newsletter is now available for translation.
It features an *important announcement* about a *series of meetings where
VE tasks on Phabricator will be triaged live and publicly*, starting next
week.
Therefore, to encourage participation (volunteer devs are particularly
welcome!) by making sure that the communities receive this translated
message in a timely fashion, we ask you to kindly consider **the current
version of the newsletter as final** (so that translations don't get
invalidated; please do leave notes in the talk page if needed [0]) and to
notice that it will be delivered to the wikis on **Thursday morning PST
this week**.
We deeply apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your
understanding; we plan to resume the standard workflow with the next issue
of the newsletter.
*Current issue:*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Newsletter/2015/February
*Direct translation link:*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-V…
The newsletter will be delivered to the people who already signed up in the
past
months (please sign up! [1]) in addition to a list of relevant pages on
most WMF wikis.
*Thank you for your invaluable help!*
Best,
Elitre (WMF)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_(Product)
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For Belgium I would like to know something different. Belgium doesn't have
a primary language, but have Dutch, French, German and English. All these
Wikipedia have other countries with a larger population where they speak
the various languages. What would be interesting for us is to know what
subjects are visited most in Belgium. This would be interesting per
language, but also the languages combined (through interwiki
links/Wikidata).
Romaine
2015-02-04 19:01 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>:
> charles andrès (WMCH), 04/02/2015 14:25:
>
>> Is there a way to know how many people use Wikipedia per interface
>> language?
>>
>
> No.
>
> Said in other words, I want to know how many people display the Wikimedia
>> project interface in the different version of German and Alemannisch.
>>
>
> Until https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58464 is fixed (hopefully in
> this decade), the requests with non-default language are negligible.* What
> makes you think that you need such a level of precision and
> https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm is not
> enough?
>
> Once the use case for such precise numbers is clarified, probably we can
> extract exact data with a method similar to https://phabricator.wikimedia.
> org/T65416 after it's fixed (hopefully this year; the bug has made
> localisation and new subdomain requests practically impossible or
> unfeasible in dozens languages, for many months now).
>
> Nemo
>
> (*) Even considering the sum of requests with uselang parameter** and of
> registered users with a non-default language choice in preferences.
> (**) Even in Commons, despite all the uselang-specific incoming links and
> the language selection gadget.
>
>
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FYI. A performance regression was found and we rolled back all wikis to
1.25wmf14. Follow the bug mentioned for updates.
----- Forwarded message from Ori Livneh <ori(a)wikimedia.org> -----
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 02:49:37 -0800
> From: Ori Livneh <ori(a)wikimedia.org>
> To: "Development and Operations engineers (WMF only)" <engineering(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Engineering] wmf15 performance regression
>
> Hello,
>
> The roll-out of wmf15 to non-Wikipedias appears to have introduced a
> significant performance regression, which registered as a 1-second increase
> in median page load times across the cluster. The regression abated when I
> rolled back <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188409/>.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/2sPxYNg.png
> http://i.imgur.com/NFbyOBu.png
>
> There should be no MediaWiki deployments until this bug is isolated and
> resolved.
> Tracked in <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88528>.
>
> Ori
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Hi all,
The past weekend was great! Wikimedia was at FOSDEM, the Free and Open
Source Software Developers' European Meeting, organised as the university
ULB in Brussels, Belgium! We had there a stand with flyers about Wikipedia,
Wikimedia, Wikimedia Belgium, and a lot of goodies.
In the Wikimedia movement we often discuss the Gendergap, as one of the
gaps we have. Wikipedia/Wikimedia looks very much likes FOSDEM, but there
the Gendergap is even larger. Wikipedia/Wikimedia needs a more social
development, we need software which enables users to form groups in an easy
way. The female contributors to Wikipedia do like two things: having in
person meetings to socialize with other editors, and second they need more
social software. The education extension is a primitive form of what is
needed. We need an extension where users easily can form groups (namespace
Groups: or something, used by an extension), where they easily can see the
recent changes of edits of group members only, to be able to actively
interact with other group members and having a long term participation in
Wikipedia. Having software where users, interest groups or a group of
editors from an external organisation can work together.
To translate it for the tech community: Wikipedia needs a kind of
*phabricator* with groups, tasks, assignments, and so on, but then for on
Wikipedia itself.
Yes, Wikipedia is not a social network, but we need to create an
environment in what we enable people to have a collaboration on a more
visible way (if people want to).
That is my clear conclusion after this conference where I spoke with a lot
of women about editing on Wikipedia, but also based on many project of the
past years we organised.
At FOSDEM I also spoke with someone from the Dutch government who is
working on creating an open source free licensed dictionary for words that
are used in specific parts of the government and they like to do a project
with Wikimedia!
They also like to re-use the data from Wiktionary, but they experienced
that that was a bit difficult. So a large donation of words for Wiktionary
is on its way!
If anyone is interested to go to next years FOSDEM and want to help at the
stand, where we also like to include more information about MediaWiki, let
us know!
Romaine
