*Dear ALL *
*Firstly, thank you for your time and intellectual investment in Wikispore *
*and the last 'strategy' meeting that was long due...*
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 9:59 PM Peter Meyer <econterms(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Z Blace and I talked further after the end of the
call.
*Thank you Peter for summarising this well.*
*I will add tiny inputs inline to be more precise *
*of the 2022 (tactical) steps, before strategic in 2023...*
Here is a doable slice of a project proposal that
would be grant-worthy.
*More precisely mini 5k rapid grant worthy for now in 2022as either
Wikidata @10 activities and/or Movement Strategy Rapid grant.*
Imagine two small data sets:
...or maybe see
them in Wikidata already
One has tables listing about 60 Croatian cultural
institutions
*Actually cultural NGOs members of Clubture network *Q96376996
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96376996>
*and trying to do more generic WikiProject beyond just this network*
*https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_CSO_cultural_networks*
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_CSO_cultural_networks>
and 200 of their projects.
*We still need to
either model in Wikidata or place in Wikispore, maybe
both?*
The other is of a similar size, and has , WMF
affiliates and offices and
projects.
We can envision a Wikispore project with some common aspects to bring
those
databases to life:
* Develop templates and forms to describe small
organizations
(institutions) and projects, each on one wiki page.
* Draw from Wikidata entries about them where
possible. (You can see
some examples on Wikispore now, as separate pages, not much
integrated yet.)
* Show network relations among them, e.g. that some
project is in common,
or that one replaced another. (Relations would be stored in
Cargo tables.)
* Manage intelligently the fact that a project might
have start and end
dates, so it existed in 2019 but not in 2020.
* Show this information on maps and/or timelines
and/or network graphs.
* Do so in a way that works reasonably in multiple languages.
I recently tried to formulate some of the queries also as for...
https://w.wiki/5NSm#CLUBTUREmembers
https://w.wiki/5dQA#WMFaffiliates
... but did not get answers :-)
Our common Wikispore project would be about
development of that COMMON
set of templates, tables, and installation of the
necessary extensions and
tools.
And then demonstrate that it works in these two cases.
(I have done
some of this..)
*I would add documentation! (do not care for solutions which are not
documented to be accessible) *
IF we filed a grant that included those elements, we
can deliver the
content, and it could be make a nice demonstration of something a
little
bit new, and all open-source.
To show that Wikispore is useful as R&D for
collaborative projects it
will be nice to show that we developed something that is
usable for
multiple purposes, and the two different applications will achieve that.
My instinct is to focus on this midsize networks of 60-200 elements, not
promise to scale them up in the short run.
*Exactly - I would not promise more in 2022 even if we feel it is possible
to scale and diversify.*
Are there others of you who could use such a “layer”
of support? Let’s
develop something useful for a more applications, if we can.
*If we need slightly smaller or bigger networks I have more ideas outside
of usual suspects. *
If we went in the direction of filing a grant it must
include support for
research on the back end wiki side of it:
Kartographer? Puppet? Ansible? Docker? General
upgrades?
*IMHO urgency is with General upgrades and debugging current issues. Then
extending the feature set to enable more experiments...Optimization aspect
should be developed with scaling up in 2023 - no?*
I heard a lot of options in the meeting.
What would be smart/interesting/relevant to include there? — Peter /
user”:econterms
*I would also add that we need to think of how things can be done.*
Therefore I am amending and refactoring Growing_seasons with 'Buds' as
sprints :-)
https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Growing_seasons#Buds_on_the_Weekend
so plans include shorter and focused weekend actions
(hackathons and sprints) as to advance in 2022 for 2023 >> 2030
I did few more things but need you to check
https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
and confirm somehow *(we do not have Thank enabled for edits)
with new inputs or reverts ;-)
Best Z. Blace