Hi folks,
although both Aaron and Jörg keep eluding my requests for some
definite time tables like Jelly, they cannot keep it a secret that the
implementation of the specs is nearly finished. Therefore, we should
start the planning of the next phase, namely testing this on a broader
basis.
First of all, we need a wiki and a datadump. Any suggestions?
Furthermore, we need people to test this. Of course, the people on
this list should be there, but that is the point where we would want
to open up the test more. Personally, I'd say that we spread the word
carefully.
Finally, there is the question of what to test. The implementation was
done in a more flexible way than in the original german proposal, to
allow for more tweaking to the needs of one community or the other.
However, a test is not so good of we do not test in the way it will be
turned on in the wiki. Therefore, I suggest either testing at first
only the simpler original functionality.
Cheers,
Philipp
Hi,
As it did come up in the past that things like {{neutrality}}, {{cleanup}} and
such maybe can be replaced by this extension too and as the currently
suggested interface (http://www.baach.de/wpdesign/Main_Page_2.html) has
quality related flags which are not really useful for tagging an individual
version only (such as readability of a text) I ask if the design is flexible
enough to support flags per article (and not only per article version) too.
These flags would be binary flags that are applied to an article until they
are explicitely removed again. Examples would
be: "Neutrality", "Cleanup", "Featured Article"...
Cheers, Arnomane
Hiho,
RS has brought up the question about differences in possible setting
for the german proposal. We have lost track of this, but I would like
to bring the topic up again. So, a short summary of the different
possibilities.
i) There are two different flags with one level each, called
"gesichtet" und "geprüft". A version is "gesichtet", if the flag
"gesichtet" is one, or "geprüft" if geprüft is one.
ii) There is just one flag called "quality" with two levels. A version
is "gesichtet", if the flag has level one, it is called "geprüft" if
it has level 2.
Currently, the last option is turned on at
http://www.baach.de/phase3de/index.php/Main_Page. Is there any real
difference between the two options? Does it matter which one we
choose?
Bye,
Philipp
Hiho,
here is an update of what are the plans for the next weeks:
During the next days, two wikis will be set up on the toolserver by
toolserver admin Daniel Baur. We will use dumps of the dutch
Wikipedia, as these dumps are sufficiently small and dutch is
understandable by both germans and americans. Jörg will take care of
things there. As Jörg is human and needs sleep, we will give those who
might need access to the server exactly that. The wikis will have
different settings (aka german/english) and will be passwordprotected
to hide the development more than currently. Once things are as we
want them, we will give the password to a lot of people in a
controlled way and take the next step.
As far as I can see, Aaron and Jörg have worked themselves almost down
the priority list and partly progressed further. So, cheer them on :-)
I hope that this plan sounds reasonable?
Bye,
Philipp
Hi,
during the last discussions, some misunderstandings have occured due
to the fact, that the current setting is rather abstract. Also, some
members of the german community approached me and said: "wait a
minute, that's not what we wanted." So, maybe we could change the
setting for a few days so that we have the situation from the german
proposal? This might also show whether the more flexible
implementation does indeed work for the more specialized setting.
I first ask this here, because I don't want to delay development by
this request. So if you want to implement something that requires the
more flexible setting with three tags and additional dimensions there
in the next fews days, please just say so.
Bye,
Philipp
