Thanks for the comment Pine!

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:42 PM Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the update, Marcel.

It looks like the plan for sunsetting includes closing this mailing list. I'd be supportive if people would like to convert it to an Event Metrics mailing list, although given the low volume of traffic here, my guess is that closure would be okay too. The list could be reopened later if people would like to use it for Event Metrics.

Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:02 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns mforns@wikimedia.org wrote:

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Hi!

Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.

If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics, allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running for one year now, has great documentation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics, and is supported by the Community Tech https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech team.

For more information, you can read this Phabricator task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835. Please, post any questions or comments in there.

Thanks!

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Federico, we're talking about *Wikimetrics*, which is a very different project intended to run stats on groups of users (cohorts) for a specific set of standard metrics. This tool was mostly developed for and used by grantmaking and program teams at WMF and affiliates around the world, but its use is too low to justify the effort it would take to maintain it. Better tools are taking its place, and we're working on some of the infrastructure will support those better tools.

I think you may have been talking about *Wikistats*, which I agree would've been very nice to keep maintaining. I think ultimately we don't have too many of the skills that made Erik successful at what he did. Perl was just one of them, and not a major part in my opinion. If I'm wrong and you're indeed talking about Wikimetrics, do please elaborate as we're just starting to make this decision.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 5:21 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:

Marcel Ruiz Forns, 22/02/19 21:01:

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Wikimetrics https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ development has been frozen since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool.

This is sad, for sure. As someone who managed to patch and run the original WikiStats scripts despite a limited knowledge of Perl, I think it would have been more reasonable than often assumed to continue their maintenance. However it's clear that we're well past the time when such a decision might have been possible, and it's good to see a growing interest in feature parity for the new WikiStats.

I think the purposes of this list can be served by the analytics list without too much sweat.

Federico

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