Hi
I want to make our Education program participants' metrics on Wikisource but don't know what to write in the field "Namespaces" for the Page: namespace. I need how many bytes the participants has added while proofreading the pages.
Best, Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
Hi Lilit!
Ive heard this is an issue for other wikisource users. Im wondering if you can Cc the GLAM or Wikisource lists to your email to see what queries folks use?
Thanks! Edward
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Lilit Tarkhanyan < lilit.tarkhanyan@wikimedia.am> wrote:
Hi
I want to make our Education program participants' metrics on Wikisource but don't know what to write in the field "Namespaces" for the Page: namespace. I need how many bytes the participants has added while proofreading the pages.
Best, Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
The namespace for the Pages is 250, and a list of the namespace ids is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces#Proofread_Page
Cheers,
Alex
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Edward Galvez egalvez@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Lilit!
Ive heard this is an issue for other wikisource users. Im wondering if you can Cc the GLAM or Wikisource lists to your email to see what queries folks use?
Thanks! Edward
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Lilit Tarkhanyan < lilit.tarkhanyan@wikimedia.am> wrote:
Hi
I want to make our Education program participants' metrics on Wikisource but don't know what to write in the field "Namespaces" for the Page: namespace. I need how many bytes the participants has added while proofreading the pages.
Best, Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
-- Edward Galvez Evaluation Strategist (Survey Specialist), and Affiliations Committee Liaison Learning & Evaluation Community Engagement Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi Alex and Edward!
I tried with 250 and 252 on the namespace field and still no result. All the results are 0s. :(
Best,
Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Alex Stinson sadads@gmail.com wrote:
The namespace for the Pages is 250, and a list of the namespace ids is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces#Proofread_Page
Cheers,
Alex
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Edward Galvez egalvez@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Lilit!
Ive heard this is an issue for other wikisource users. Im wondering if you can Cc the GLAM or Wikisource lists to your email to see what queries folks use?
Thanks! Edward
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Lilit Tarkhanyan < lilit.tarkhanyan@wikimedia.am> wrote:
Hi
I want to make our Education program participants' metrics on Wikisource but don't know what to write in the field "Namespaces" for the Page: namespace. I need how many bytes the participants has added while proofreading the pages.
Best, Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
-- Edward Galvez Evaluation Strategist (Survey Specialist), and Affiliations Committee Liaison Learning & Evaluation Community Engagement Wikimedia Foundation
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Lilit Tarkhanyan, 13/09/2016 11:17:
I tried with 250 and 252 on the namespace field and still no result. All the results are 0s. :(
The actual namespaces available are listed at https://wikisource.org/wiki/WS:COORD while the IDs are defined at https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php (ExtraNamespaces), e.g.:
'hywikisource' => [ 100 => 'Հեղինակ', 101 => 'Հեղինակի_քննարկում', 102 => 'Պորտալ', 103 => 'Պորտալի_քննարկում', 104 => 'Էջ', 105 => 'Էջի_քննարկում', 106 => 'Ինդեքս', 107 => 'Ինդեքսի_քննարկում', ],
I recommend to consider all namespaces instead, at least until wikimetrics learns about $wgContentNamespaces.
Nemo
Good evening Lilit,
If you are including these metrics in a report for a recently completed grant, I would recommend using namespace 0, because that is what is recommended in the Calculating Global Metrics learning pattern: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_pat terns/Number_of_articles_created_or_improved_in_Wikimedia_projects . It will count the number of pages that have been completely proofread and validated and pushed to mainspace for general consumption.
If it is not for a grant and you want to count number of proofreadings, then that is different than the number of pages created in the proofreading namespace (250). I'm not sure how to calculate this yet, let me check with a Wikisource developer and get back to the list on this.
Cheers, Amanda
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Alex Stinson sadads@gmail.com wrote:
The namespace for the Pages is 250, and a list of the namespace ids is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces#Proofread_Page
Cheers,
Alex
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Edward Galvez egalvez@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Lilit!
Ive heard this is an issue for other wikisource users. Im wondering if you can Cc the GLAM or Wikisource lists to your email to see what queries folks use?
Thanks! Edward
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Lilit Tarkhanyan < lilit.tarkhanyan@wikimedia.am> wrote:
Hi
I want to make our Education program participants' metrics on Wikisource but don't know what to write in the field "Namespaces" for the Page: namespace. I need how many bytes the participants has added while proofreading the pages.
Best, Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
-- Edward Galvez Evaluation Strategist (Survey Specialist), and Affiliations Committee Liaison Learning & Evaluation Community Engagement Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi Federico and Amanda,
Thank you for your advices. I tried with Federico's offered namespace numbers and it worked.
I don't do this metrics for Global Metrics. It's for my education program monthly statistics :)
Thank you for your help! Best,
Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Amanda Bittaker abittaker@wikimedia.org wrote:
Good evening Lilit,
If you are including these metrics in a report for a recently completed grant, I would recommend using namespace 0, because that is what is recommended in the Calculating Global Metrics learning pattern: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_pat terns/Number_of_articles_created_or_improved_in_Wikimedia_projects . It will count the number of pages that have been completely proofread and validated and pushed to mainspace for general consumption.
If it is not for a grant and you want to count number of proofreadings, then that is different than the number of pages created in the proofreading namespace (250). I'm not sure how to calculate this yet, let me check with a Wikisource developer and get back to the list on this.
Cheers, Amanda
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Alex Stinson sadads@gmail.com wrote:
The namespace for the Pages is 250, and a list of the namespace ids is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespac es#Proofread_Page
Cheers,
Alex
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Edward Galvez egalvez@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Lilit!
Ive heard this is an issue for other wikisource users. Im wondering if you can Cc the GLAM or Wikisource lists to your email to see what queries folks use?
Thanks! Edward
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Lilit Tarkhanyan < lilit.tarkhanyan@wikimedia.am> wrote:
Hi
I want to make our Education program participants' metrics on Wikisource but don't know what to write in the field "Namespaces" for the Page: namespace. I need how many bytes the participants has added while proofreading the pages.
Best, Lilit Tarkhanyan Wikimedia Armenia Board Member Wikipedia Education Program Leader 2a Arshakunyats ave., 4th floor tel. +374 55 534 011
-- Edward Galvez Evaluation Strategist (Survey Specialist), and Affiliations Committee Liaison Learning & Evaluation Community Engagement Wikimedia Foundation
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