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On Apr 11, 2011 10:54 AM, "BRANTON OBWARI" bruceobwari@gmail.com wrote:
Abbas,you were able to capture everything , i personally don't have any objection to..company limited ,if it works for us as it worked for the UK chapter ,so be it and as Abbas had put all these are legal vehicles to
make
us our objectives.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Abbas Mahmood abbasjnr@hotmail.com
wrote:
OK, I'll wikify the minutes.
The lawyer told me that it is not his job to decide for us, but advise us on the legal vehicle.
Grace also shared with me her concerns of the relevance of people voting over the best legal vehicle.
Therefore, if people don't want to vote, and the lawyer is not in a position to choose for us; I am going to tell him to redact the bylaws in accordance with company limited by guarantee. Are there any objections?
I did not want to be the one to choose this, so as to encourage
collective
responsibility, but anyway..
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:02:07 +0300 From: oslimoke@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
Hi Guys, Good to see progress in the By-Laws thorny issue.I am at the moment
caught
up with work and I have very intermittent internet access and very
limited
time to myself.(Paying for my long absence for Wikimedia staff :P)
Anyway,Congratulations to Alex for the Wikimania and I hope we be the Chapter to be announced at the Wikimania like SA at Berlin
I would also opine that we should not let the members vote for the best Legal way to go since most of us have limited legal understanding.Let the the Lawyer advice in between the two and we take the best option rather
than
vote as voting may result in not necessarily the best option but the
popular
option...just my 2 cents
Otherwise the deliberations at the meeting are great and congratulations guys for the good work.
Abbas,please please could u find time to put the minutes on our Wiki?just for reference?..Thank you
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Ann Njeri njeriannk@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Abbas, now understand
On Monday, April 11, 2011, Abbas Mahmood abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Ann,
clearly, you haven't been following the discussions during the past
week.
I hope that this is the final time I'll be repeating this:
I'm going to speak for myself and state that I think co. ltd by
guarantee
is the best option since we have precedence of how it's working from Wikimedia UK. After registration, we will then apply for tax exemption/non-profit status from the Ministry of Finance.
Sam, I'm on the Wikimania 2012 Jury, and we are going to announce the host
city in due course of the day, so keep your eyes open :)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:24:15 +0300 From: coolsam726@gmail.com To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
First of all, I still regret since my "absence with apologies" is not a
good enough experience for me. However, congraturations to all who made
it
to the meeting, and congraturations for the constructive discussion that
you
had.
I won't forget to congraturate Alex for getting the chance to represent
us in Haifa, Israel this year. This should be an encouragement and a good sign that now every year Kenya seems to have a representative at the Wikimania (I Personally crave for the 2012 one :)).
I believe that we will have more physical meetings when all schools
reopen, ie when internships are over. Right now, I would urge us to once again take our free time to go through the legal options we have with a scrutinizing eye so that we can make the perfect choice since this is a
very
critical step in our chapter formation
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Ann Njeri njeriannk@gmail.com wrote:
Good work guys, I'm embarrassed that I forgot to send my apologies. If
I
may ask, what were the reasons that.led you to decide on a company
limited
by guarante?
On Apr 10, 2011 5:06 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, We got to have a meetup this weekend. My dear friend/secretary, Grace,
was absent and unfortunately we didn't have a note-taker! So please
pardon
me, for my not-so-professional minute-writing skills.
To the members who were present: kindly add anything I might have
forgotten in the minutes below. Also, if I have forgotten any member who
was
present/absent with apologies, I'm sorry!
All in all, this meetup had a few hiccups with venue changes and
starting late; but I do believe that we had sound discussions, so thanks
to
those who made it :)
I am, yours,Abbas
Minutes of the Meetup held at University of Nairobi, adjacent to the
Fountain of Knowledge on 09/04/2011. The Meetup started way behind
schedule.
== Members Present: ==Lillian NyareraBranton ObwariChris RiwaStephen
WanjauAlex WafulaDennis MuneneCliff OchiengAbbas Mahmood
== Absent with Apologies:[1] ==Oliver StegenSam MaosaIsaac KosgeiDavid
Mugo
== Agenda == -The legal vehicle for registration was deliberated. Although most, if
not all, of us agreed on choosing company limited by guarantee; we will
give
members a chance to vote for the model they want.
-It was also unanimously decided that the membership fee be KES500
p.a.
Failure to pay this membership fee will result in that person not having membership rights, such as the right to vote.
-Basing on the KISS (Keep it Stupid n Simple) rule, we also decided to
strip off all the classes of membership, and just have one category of members: ordinary members.
-It was also suggested that we add one more member to the board, so as
to have an odd-numbered board for voting purposes. It was also suggested that the title of this post be Organizing Secretary or Project Manager -
who
will basically be involved in projects/events organizing.
-It was also suggested that the Board members can run/hold for their
posts for a maximum of two consecutive years. Some (or is it most?)
African
leaders are notorious for clinging in power, so this was a measure
suggested
to counter this phenomenon. It was also argued that we could have a
leader
that performs so well and therefore we should not limit his/her term but rather judge by merit.
-The Nyeri team also told us about their experience -- apparently they
were unaware of the official pilot document that was letter-headed by the Foundation that they could use when approaching schools.
-It was also announced that Alex Wafula had been awarded a fully-paid
trip to attend Wikimania 2011, in Haifa. If there is any other person[s] going to Wikimania, kindly notify us.
The meetup was adjourned at some minutes past 1pm.-----[1] Absent with
apologies - members who sent notice on the mailing list with regrets of being unable to attend.
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