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On Apr 11, 2011 10:54 AM, "BRANTON OBWARI" <bruceobwari@gmail.com> wrote:
> Abbas,you were able to capture everything , i personally don't have any
> objection to..company limited ,if it works for us as it worked for the UK
> chapter ,so be it and as Abbas had put all these are legal vehicles to make
> us our objectives.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, I'll wikify the minutes.
>>
>> The lawyer told me that it is not his job to decide for us, but advise us
>> on the legal vehicle.
>>
>> Grace also shared with me her concerns of the relevance of people voting
>> over the best legal vehicle.
>>
>> Therefore, if people don't want to vote, and the lawyer is not in a
>> position to choose for us; I am going to tell him to redact the bylaws in
>> accordance with company limited by guarantee. Are there any objections?
>>
>> I did not want to be the one to choose this, so as to encourage collective
>> responsibility, but anyway..
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:02:07 +0300
>> From: oslimoke@gmail.com
>>
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>> Good to see progress in the By-Laws thorny issue.I am at the moment caught
>> up with work and I have very intermittent internet access and very limited
>> time to myself.(Paying for my long absence for Wikimedia staff :P)
>>
>> Anyway,Congratulations to Alex for the Wikimania and I hope we be the
>> Chapter to be announced at the Wikimania like SA at Berlin
>>
>> I would also opine that we should not let the members vote for the best
>> Legal way to go since most of us have limited legal understanding.Let the
>> the Lawyer advice in between the two and we take the best option rather than
>> vote as voting may result in not necessarily the best option but the popular
>> option...just my 2 cents
>>
>> Otherwise the deliberations at the meeting are great and congratulations
>> guys for the good work.
>>
>> Abbas,please please could u find time to put the minutes on our Wiki?just
>> for reference?..Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Ann Njeri <njeriannk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Abbas, now understand
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2011, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ann,
>> >
>> > clearly, you haven't been following the discussions during the past week.
>> I hope that this is the final time I'll be repeating this:
>> >
>> > I'm going to speak for myself and state that I think co. ltd by guarantee
>> is the best option since we have precedence of how it's working from
>> Wikimedia UK. After registration, we will then apply for tax
>> exemption/non-profit status from the Ministry of Finance.
>> >
>> > Sam,
>> > I'm on the Wikimania 2012 Jury, and we are going to announce the host
>> city in due course of the day, so keep your eyes open :)
>> >
>> > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:24:15 +0300
>> > From: coolsam726@gmail.com
>> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
>> >
>> > First of all, I still regret since my "absence with apologies" is not a
>> good enough experience for me. However, congraturations to all who made it
>> to the meeting, and congraturations for the constructive discussion that you
>> had.
>> > I won't forget to congraturate Alex for getting the chance to represent
>> us in Haifa, Israel this year. This should be an encouragement and a good
>> sign that now every year Kenya seems to have a representative at the
>> Wikimania (I Personally crave for the 2012 one :)).
>> > I believe that we will have more physical meetings when all schools
>> reopen, ie when internships are over. Right now, I would urge us to once
>> again take our free time to go through the legal options we have with a
>> scrutinizing eye so that we can make the perfect choice since this is a very
>> critical step in our chapter formation
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Ann Njeri <njeriannk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good work guys, I'm embarrassed that I forgot to send my apologies. If I
>> may ask, what were the reasons that.led you to decide on a company limited
>> by guarante?
>> >
>> > On Apr 10, 2011 5:06 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ladies and gentlemen,
>> >> We got to have a meetup this weekend. My dear friend/secretary, Grace,
>> was absent and unfortunately we didn't have a note-taker! So please pardon
>> me, for my not-so-professional minute-writing skills.
>> >> To the members who were present: kindly add anything I might have
>> forgotten in the minutes below. Also, if I have forgotten any member who was
>> present/absent with apologies, I'm sorry!
>> >> All in all, this meetup had a few hiccups with venue changes and
>> starting late; but I do believe that we had sound discussions, so thanks to
>> those who made it :)
>> >> I am, yours,Abbas
>> >> ---
>> >>
>> >> Minutes of the Meetup held at University of Nairobi, adjacent to the
>> Fountain of Knowledge on 09/04/2011. The Meetup started way behind schedule.
>> >> == Members Present: ==Lillian NyareraBranton ObwariChris RiwaStephen
>> WanjauAlex WafulaDennis MuneneCliff OchiengAbbas Mahmood
>> >> == Absent with Apologies:[1] ==Oliver StegenSam MaosaIsaac KosgeiDavid
>> Mugo
>> >> == Agenda ==
>> >> -The legal vehicle for registration was deliberated. Although most, if
>> not all, of us agreed on choosing company limited by guarantee; we will give
>> members a chance to vote for the model they want.
>> >> -It was also unanimously decided that the membership fee be KES500 p.a.
>> Failure to pay this membership fee will result in that person not having
>> membership rights, such as the right to vote.
>> >> -Basing on the KISS (Keep it Stupid n Simple) rule, we also decided to
>> strip off all the classes of membership, and just have one category of
>> members: ordinary members.
>> >> -It was also suggested that we add one more member to the board, so as
>> to have an odd-numbered board for voting purposes. It was also suggested
>> that the title of this post be Organizing Secretary or Project Manager - who
>> will basically be involved in projects/events organizing.
>> >> -It was also suggested that the Board members can run/hold for their
>> posts for a maximum of two consecutive years. Some (or is it most?) African
>> leaders are notorious for clinging in power, so this was a measure suggested
>> to counter this phenomenon. It was also argued that we could have a leader
>> that performs so well and therefore we should not limit his/her term but
>> rather judge by merit.
>> >> -The Nyeri team also told us about their experience -- apparently they
>> were unaware of the official pilot document that was letter-headed by the
>> Foundation that they could use when approaching schools.
>> >> -It was also announced that Alex Wafula had been awarded a fully-paid
>> trip to attend Wikimania 2011, in Haifa. If there is any other person[s]
>> going to Wikimania, kindly notify us.
>> >> The meetup was adjourned at some minutes past 1pm.-----[1] Absent with
>> apologies - members who sent notice on the mailing list with regrets of
>> being unable to attend.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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