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-------- Message transféré -------- Sujet : Re: Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle Date : Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:21:26 +0200 De : Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com Pour : Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, mail@anderswennersten.se, Florence Devouard fdevouard@anthere.org

Hi Anders

I LOVE your email. I forward it to our public list.

Thanks

Florence

Le 13/07/2017 à 17:37, Anders Wennersten a écrit :

I LOVE the Wikipedia way of working - result-oriented, respectful dialogues around facts

I HATE power-games and misuse of given authority, both in general in life and especially in the Wikimedia movement

I ADMIRE the functionaries in France who have stood firm in their own integrity and their beliefs in our values, and rather resigned then "played along"

I am very HAPPY to see the decisive stand of FDC, The Board an WMF for our values in this case of misbehaviour

and I TRULY LOVE to see the constructiveness of the French community as they arise (as the Phoenix bird from the ashes) in order to re-establish the chapter to be true to the values, vision and best practice within the movement

I already know the French community to be both creative, productive and well working, and am now looking forward to once again see the also creative, productive and well working as we have been used to see

Anders wishing everyone involved the energy to get through this challenge in the best way possible

Den 2017-07-13 kl. 11:44, skrev Natacha Rault:

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Der Lodewijk,

Thank you for the message, the threshold has indeed been reached, and the WMFR board has communicated that they will have the GA asap. The official number of people requesting the GA is of 73 as of now.

The emphasis on democratic chapters is indeed important. People are now discussing freely on the public list, and it’s great because they are starting to reflect on what they want for the future, and also have spokesmen and women for the organisation of the GA. I think this was really needed and the discussion is really refreshing after months of moderation.

Kind regards,

Natacha / Nattes à chat

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Le 13 juil. 2017 à 11:32, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org a écrit :

Thanks Natacha.

I see that 70 members have requested a General Assembly to be held. I remember from WMFR's bylaws that 25% of the membership can force the board to call a General Assembly, or do it themselves. Is this request formulated in such a manner? What is the required threshold?

This is a terribly sad situation WMFR finds itself in. There are no winners, and trying to continue this struggle can only create bigger losses on all sides.

I hope an assembly can be held soon, and that a democratic decision can be prepared there, where the membership can give its trust to a board - either providing the current board (with a majority of board-appointed members, if I understand correctly) with the much needed moral authority, or by electing a new board that can start afresh.

This is why we have always put so much emphasis on having democratic chapters where the members can in the end intervene.

Lodewijk (snipping the messages below, as the software complains it's too long)

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2017-07-13 10:21 GMT+02:00 Natacha Rault n.rault@me.com:

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Dear All,

As some anglophone wikimedians wanted an English version, we have translated the time line in English concerning what is happening in the French chapter, although surely we still have to clarify and correct mistakes. You can find it here: https://www.mathisbenguigui.eu /wikimedia-timeline/indexEN.html https://www.mathisbenguigui.e u/wikimedia-timeline/indexEN.html

Kind regards,

Nattes à chat / Natacha

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