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Sujet : Re: Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle
Date : Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:21:26 +0200
De : Devouard (gmail) <fdevouard@gmail.com>
Pour : Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, mail@anderswennersten.se, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@anthere.org>


Hi Anders

I LOVE your email. I forward it to our public list.

Thanks

Florence

Le 13/07/2017 à 17:37, Anders Wennersten a écrit :
> I LOVE the Wikipedia way of working - result-oriented, respectful 
> dialogues around facts
> 
> I HATE power-games and misuse of given authority, both in general in 
> life and especially in the Wikimedia movement
> 
> I ADMIRE the functionaries in France who have stood firm in their own 
> integrity and their beliefs in our values, and rather resigned then 
> "played along"
> 
> I am very HAPPY to see the decisive stand of FDC, The Board an WMF for 
> our values in this case of misbehaviour
> 
> and I TRULY LOVE to see the constructiveness of the French community as 
> they arise (as  the Phoenix bird from the ashes) in order to 
> re-establish the chapter to be true to the values, vision and best 
> practice within the movement
> 
> I already know the French community to be both creative, productive and 
> well working, and am now looking forward to once again see the also 
> creative, productive and well working as we have been used to see
> 
> Anders
> wishing everyone involved the energy to get through this challenge in 
> the best way possible
> 
> 
> Den 2017-07-13 kl. 11:44, skrev Natacha Rault:
>> Der Lodewijk,
>>
>> Thank you for the message, the threshold has indeed been reached, and 
>> the WMFR board has communicated that they will have the GA asap. The 
>> official number of people requesting the GA is of 73 as of now.
>>
>> The emphasis on democratic chapters is indeed important. People are 
>> now discussing freely on the public list, and it’s  great because they 
>> are starting to reflect on what they want for the future, and also 
>> have spokesmen and women for the organisation of the GA. I think this 
>> was really needed and the discussion is really refreshing after months 
>> of moderation.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Natacha / Nattes à chat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Le 13 juil. 2017 à 11:32, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> a 
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>> Thanks Natacha.
>>>
>>> I see that 70 members have requested a General Assembly to be held. I
>>> remember from WMFR's bylaws that 25% of the membership can force the 
>>> board
>>> to call a General Assembly, or do it themselves. Is this request 
>>> formulated
>>> in such a manner? What is the required threshold?
>>>
>>> This is a terribly sad situation WMFR finds itself in. There are no
>>> winners, and trying to continue this struggle can only create bigger 
>>> losses
>>> on all sides.
>>>
>>> I hope an assembly can be held soon, and that a democratic decision 
>>> can be
>>> prepared there, where the membership can give its trust to a board - 
>>> either
>>> providing the current board (with a majority of board-appointed 
>>> members, if
>>> I understand correctly) with the much needed moral authority, or by
>>> electing a new board that can start afresh.
>>>
>>> This is why we have always put so much emphasis on having democratic
>>> chapters where the members can in the end intervene.
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>> (snipping the messages below, as the software complains it's too long)
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2017-07-13 10:21 GMT+02:00 Natacha Rault <n.rault@me.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> As some anglophone wikimedians wanted an English version, we have
>>>>> translated the time line in English concerning what is happening in 
>>>>> the
>>>>> French chapter, although surely we still have to clarify and correct
>>>>> mistakes. You can find it here: https://www.mathisbenguigui.eu
>>>>> /wikimedia-timeline/indexEN.html <https://www.mathisbenguigui.e
>>>>> u/wikimedia-timeline/indexEN.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nattes à chat / Natacha
>>>>>
>>>>>
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